Storing Future in Alternate Containers

PR19_Kit · February 02, 2017, 06:55:53 AM

If all else fails you could try a chain wrench. I have a couple of them to hand for such occasions, one large and one 'What EVER are you going to use THAT for???'

zenrat · February 03, 2017, 04:50:29 AM

A strap wrench might be a better idea if you want to save the lid.

TheChronicOne · February 03, 2017, 03:47:35 PM

Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2017, 12:55:14 AM
Turn the jar upside down and run some GP thinners into the threads from a paintbrush.
Turn it back up the right way before trying to loosen the lid.

I'll try that.. good thinkin.

Once I get it back open I'll utilize some of the tips in here for more better storage. Like I said it wasn't a problem until like three days ago.. I pretty much shelved it for months so never got around to fixing the initial problem.

TheChronicOne · February 03, 2017, 03:48:39 PM

Quote from: Rheged on February 02, 2017, 04:16:05 AM
Quote from: Steel Penguin on September 25, 2016, 01:38:07 AM
look in your local shops and see if any of them have "a device to help undoing lids " usually its marketed at the older community, and has an adjustable metal collar that you can loosen / tighten and a nice long handle to grip, enabling more efficient use of force.

These devices are a good piece of kit! My mum has one (at 91, she's entitled to help unscrewing jars) but hers was bought in an auto-accessory shop.......it was supposed to be used for unscrewing recalcitrant oil filters. She's had it for probably 35 years and it's still unscrewing pickle jars .

Good stuff here. I lament having to break down and have to use stuff like this but I ain't gettin any younger. Things don't work like they used to.

Rick Lowe · September 30, 2017, 01:18:02 AM

Hay, Brad

I have found one of those 3-inch squares of flat rubber jar-openers you can get through Tupperware works great for Klear jars, paint jars, just about anything you need a grippy-thing to get the torque where it'll do the most good.

FWIW

TheChronicOne · September 30, 2017, 03:44:37 AM

Thanks!!! I used to have one of those.

Funny story...my jar of polish has been sealed shut ever since this thread.

I really don't use the stuff any more... I just dip canopies and I can do that right in and out of the original bottle.

I've found that I get less than stellar results. I've no airbrush so I just brush it on. I'm finding that it won't even stick to, it just pools up, any type of paint that has a bit of shine to it and then, my flat paints it will soak into, but produce uneven results. It even melts paint off in certain instances... I dunno.... man... everyone acts like this stuff is the best things since pockets on shirts and I'm over here like... "ehhhhh..."

Maybe the key lies in spraying it. That's cool, though, because I'm finally thinking about picking up an airbrush and compressor... I think I'd like to get a Badger Anthem 155. Probably will wait on a compressor because I can just put a regulator and water trap just before the brush and simply fill up an air storage tank. Otherwise it's connect straight to my 10 gallon compressor.

PR19_Kit · September 30, 2017, 05:27:33 AM

It may be the Future itself. They changed the formula here in Europe some years ago, and the newer stuff is nowhere near as good as the older version. But I don't know if they changed it over in the US.

TheChronicOne · September 30, 2017, 10:42:19 AM

Ohh yeah, that's right... and I use off-brand generic kind. I keep forgetting that bit of important info.

I know they certainly re-named it but I can't recall if the formula stayed the same for ours or not.. seems I remember reading that the stuff over there in the EU was changed because of some new regulation or something.

They call the new stuff here Pledge "something something something." I'll have to pick some up when I'm at the store.

PR19_Kit · September 30, 2017, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: TheChronicOne on September 30, 2017, 10:42:19 AM

I know they certainly re-named it but I can't recall if the formula stayed the same for ours or not.. seems I remember reading that the stuff over there in the EU was changed because of some new regulation or something.

Exactly, yet more 'Euro-Regs' for us to obey without question. Not for long though..................

zenrat · October 01, 2017, 01:44:04 AM

"Pledge with Future Shine"?

It's an acrylic polish with ammonia in the solvent and will cause some acrylic paints to bubble and craze. It definitely does this to Gunze and Tamiya. Not tried it over Vallejo.

Rick Lowe · October 01, 2017, 02:36:57 AM

Be careful putting anything over Vallejo - I like the paints a lot, but I've never encountered any as fragile... I hairy sticked straight Klear (old bottle) on and it took the paint off the raised detail of the kit, down to the white primer. Had to put another thin layer of paint over the thing - of course the transfers were already on...

NARSES2 · October 01, 2017, 04:22:49 AM

As far as I'm aware the formula for Klear/Future stayed the same in the States. However you're always best checking where the product was produced. Could be imported from the E.U. even if indirectly.

As for generic brands ? They can be a minefield. It all depends on a) how complicated the original formula is and b) if that original formula is still subject to copywrite etc ?

Rick Lowe · October 02, 2017, 11:40:01 AM

Oops - Edit time:

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 01, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
Be careful putting anything over Vallejo - I like the paints a lot, but I've never encountered any as fragile... I hairy sticked straight Gunze Flat Clear on Over a layer of Johnson's Klear and it took the paint off the raised detail of the kit, down to the white primer. Had to put another thin layer of paint over the thing - of course the transfers were already on...

Sorry, had a Senior Moment - or another in the series...