De Havilland Sea Venom

[Joe C-P]

I'm trying to figure out how to whif it. It will serve in the Naval Air Corps of one of the Patchwork World Dutch city-states.

JoeP

[The Wooksta!]

Any navy that didn't have them?  India, for example?  De-navalise it and flog it to some tin pot third world bunch?  Or keep the naval gear and flog it to the Swiss - they flew Venoms anyway and the arrestor gear would be handy for short landings whilst the folding wings mean you can hide them away in a tunnel sharpish.

Or an offset Vampire bubble canopy with the radar dude buried as a Vixen trainer?  Must have a pointy nose and the 60s paint scheme.

[Captain Canada]

You know what this thread needs ? More leaves 

Looking forward to seeing this one. Love that aeroplane, so wee but big. Sleek but clunky....love that box art as well !

[kitbasher]

Or an offset Vampire bubble canopy with the radar dude buried as a Vixen trainer?  Must have a pointy nose and the 60s paint scheme.

Only if the observer is a dwarf!

Seriously though, the Aeronavale's Sea Venom-derived Aquilon came in a single-seat version but retained the original canopy.  An offset canopy a la Sea Vixen would be a legit whif in that respect.

[PR19_Kit]

Doesn't the Observer in a Sea Venom sit slightly astern of the Pilot, presumably derived from the Nav's position in a Mossie?

[kitnut617]

I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

[zenrat]

I've read somewhere that the forward fuselage of the Vampire was the same diameter as that of the Mosquito.  Don't know about the Venom.

[PR19_Kit]

I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

Certainly the T11s came off the Mossie production line. I spoke to a guy restoring the woordwork on a T11 at Duxford a while back and he said he used the same workshop manuals as he'd used to sort out a Mossie night fighter at Elvington some years previously. 

[NARSES2]

I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

I to have seen that somewhere.

[Knightflyer]

Just tagging onto this thread as I've a Sea Venom under consideration as well

General question - Can anyone confirm that the RAF night-fighter Venoms (NF.2 & NF.3) weren't 'wired-up' to carry rockets (and bombs?) in the same way as the FAA 'multi-purpose' Sea-Venoms FAW.20 etc) ?

[kitbasher]

Doesn't the Observer in a Sea Venom sit slightly astern of the Pilot, presumably derived from the Nav's position in a Mossie?

Dunno about that but the Vampire T11 and Sea Venom pits are VERY tight and the slight offset in the latter is essential for radar scopes, etc.

[kitbasher]

I've read somewhere that the forward fuselages of the Vampire and Venom two seaters came from the Mosquito ---

I don't think so, derivation from the depth of the single seater Vampires and Venoms would have been the deciders, but the Mossie influence at least is clear to me.

[kitbasher]

Forward fuselages.  Will check with my Sea Venom expert and report back.  Construction principles/techniques would at least be VERY similar.

A whiffed Mosquito NF.30 front end with a Goblin engine and wings from a Vampire F1 plus NF10 booms/tailplane.  Mmm, I feel a whif coming on!

[PR19_Kit]

....Or the other way round.

A Vampire with a Merlin in the back and a pusher prop, and VERY long undercarriage legs, needless to say.

[kitbasher]

So a SAAB J21 then.  And the J21R, like the Vampire, was Goblin-powered.