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Soviet GB Suggested Rules

Started by NARSES2, December 19, 2016, 02:10:08 AM

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Which clarification of the term 'Soviet' do you favour for the rules of this GB? (see reply #79 for details)

Anything Goes
21 (48.8%)
Soviet Russia Only
22 (51.2%)

Total Members Voted: 43

Voting closed: January 09, 2017, 09:31:39 AM


CANSO

Quote from: Weaver on January 28, 2017, 06:25:19 AM
5.  Part-started models will be considered by the moderators. You should explain what you have done or post pics (even better) and they will convene and pass judgment, their decision being final - we are relying on the honour of our membership to uphold this rule.
Based on the above quoted rule I want to ask a question.
In a thrift shop I found these bagged parts:

It was obvious that they are from a 1:72 A-20 model but which one? :rolleyes:
Because the instructions were in Russian, a short search on the web gave me the answer: this is the NOVO reincarnation of the FROG "Boston III" from the 1950s.

On the inside of the wing there is also a print mark in Russian "Б-20Ж", probably indicating that this is the "G" model (or maybe "J"?).

There was no B-20G at all, but plenty of A-20G were delivered to USSR.
My question is: Can I revitalize this started/finished/broken model to a completely new look? Something like "Stalin's Super Strafer - SSS" :o maybe?

Weaver

CANSO - I shall consult the other mods.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

JasonW

Quote from: Weaver on February 05, 2017, 09:54:06 AM
CANSO - I shall consult the other mods.
CANSO, Weaver and I have discussed. Based on the pictures, we agree that presuming you'll totally repaint the model and the amount of work involved with refurbishing and completing the model pictured to a finished build will encompass at least as much work (if not more) than starting a fresh build kit that it can be included in the group build.

FYI, that looks like the Russian copy of the Frog A-20 kit. See kit review of Frog kit here for sprue shots: http://frog.cocardes.com/douglas-boston-iii-havoc-ref-f208

A lot of Frog molds ended up with Russian company called Novo and then bounced around to several other Russian companies and also Modelcraft among others.
It takes only one drink to get me drunk. The trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or the fourteenth.

   - George Burns

CANSO

#154
Quote from: JasonW on February 05, 2017, 05:30:59 PMCANSO, Weaver and I have discussed. Based on the pictures, we agree that presuming you'll totally repaint the model and the amount of work involved with refurbishing and completing the model pictured to a finished build will encompass at least as much work (if not more) than starting a fresh build kit that it can be included in the group build.
Jason and Weaver, thank you for the prompt answer! :thumbsup:
I bought this pieces with the idea to revamp them for the GB and didn't have the intention to keep the coloration or any parts already finished as such. I don't even want to put all of this parts together in the same way as it's expected for a real life model, thus the work involved in the project will be much more than just starting this particular kit as a fresh one. At least this is my intention.
Quote from: JasonW on February 05, 2017, 05:30:59 PM
FYI, that looks like the Russian copy of the Frog A-20 kit. See kit review of Frog kit here for sprue shots: http://frog.cocardes.com/douglas-boston-iii-havoc-ref-f208
Yes, as I already wrote in my previous post that I could track this model and its reincarnation (Made in Odessa). I used a very informative site for almost all NOVO models.
As per this site the box art (could this be considered Art? :rolleyes:) of the model is a killer! Take a look.
BTW I see the original price was 1.40 rubles. I bought it for 1.00 $CAD. In today's money 1.40 rubles=3 cents :o.

zenrat

How do the mods feel about the use of the NATO reporting name F**kwit?
Obviously I would always use the asterisks but people would still be mentally inserting the letters and thinking the bad word.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on February 06, 2017, 01:30:25 AM

Obviously I would always use the asterisks but people would still be mentally inserting the letters and thinking the bad word.


As if.................. ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

JasonW

Quote from: zenrat on February 06, 2017, 01:30:25 AM
How do the mods feel about the use of the NATO reporting name F**kwit?
Obviously I would always use the asterisks but people would still be mentally inserting the letters and thinking the bad word.
Ah. Was waiting for something like this. :D Let me get Harold's thoughts and we'll post a response.
It takes only one drink to get me drunk. The trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or the fourteenth.

   - George Burns

NARSES2

Yup, just an apology from me in particular, but I've had a fair few hospital out patient appointments over the last week or so (last one today hopefully) and have been a little tardy in getting back to your two Main Moderators when I've been asked.

Don't blame them, scream at me. Hopefully back to normal tomorrow.

Chris
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

zenrat

No rush.  This is just a thought in case I get time or inclination to do a third aircraft build for the GB.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Weaver

Quote from: zenrat on February 08, 2017, 01:42:05 AM
No rush.  This is just a thought in case I get time or inclination to do a third aircraft build for the GB.

You have PM.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Old Wombat

I'm guessing the Farcough, Farquit, Farqueue & Farkennel are out? ;D ;)

Not serious! I doubt I'll be entering &, if I do, it'll be armour rather than aircraft. :thumbsup:
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

zenrat

Far Kew is a suburb of Melbourne...


Listening to the ABC radio during the week they had an interview with a Chinese scientist called (and i'm not making this up) Hu Fa Ting.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Old Wombat

There's a grocery store in Adelaide called "Dai Phat Asian Grocery" & an eatery called "Hung Thinh Chinese Restaurant".

I think I'll call it quits before I veer too far off topic. ;)
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Weaver

There used to be an Aussie who sold T-shirts at UK bike ralies. His business was called 'Far Canal' and the larger version of his stall was called the 'Farca Mall'... :wacko:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones