Aerospatiale Puma/Super Puma/Cougar

[Rheged]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

[PR19_Kit]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

The whole document just BOGGLES the mind! I'm amazed they actually got as far as building an actual helicopter after that load of cobblers.

The last paragraph of the conclusions says it all....

'Sensitivity to established personalities rather than established procedures produces the best results.'

....translates to 'The Generals have the last word' I think. 

[jcf]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

I gather you've not read similar documents produced within a large corporation?
This is a model of clarity in comparison.   

[Weaver]

Hmm - US Army Pumas and French Air Force A-7s - there's a whiff to conjure with...

[jcf]

Definitely a whiff as there was no way in hell in the period that the US Army would have ended up with Pumas,
as their Huey replacement.

[zenrat]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

I gather you've not read similar documents produced within a large corporation?
This is a model of clarity in comparison.   

Well, I did work for British Rail but fortunately that coincided with the Campaign for Plain English.

[Thorvic]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

I gather you've not read similar documents produced within a large corporation?
This is a model of clarity in comparison.   

Well, I did work for British Rail but fortunately that coincided with the Campaign for Plain English.

There problem wasn't writing English it was speaking it especially over the Tanoy !! 

[McColm]

I've seen a few US Sheriff Departments use the Puma on the internet.

[DarrenP2]

us defence contractor used ex german border guard pumas on in the vertrep role of US Navy supply ships.

Luftwaffe or german army puma?

Canadian Airforce (Including rescue)
Australian Airforce or Army
New Zealand Airforce
Different RAF sqns and maybe the old Middle East airforce scheme
Rhodesian Airforce

[NARSES2]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

I gather you've not read similar documents produced within a large corporation?
This is a model of clarity in comparison.   

Well, I did work for British Rail but fortunately that coincided with the Campaign for Plain English.

There problem wasn't writing English it was speaking it especially over the Tanoy !! 

You may well have been able to read their English but the problem was it was largely (the timetables in particular) a work of fiction.

[PR19_Kit]

UTTAS
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=AD0765438

Wow.  That summary on page 4 after the title is a doozy.  I read it out to Mrs z (who is used to government documents) and even she couldn't tell me what it was about.

If you understand the document, some bureaucrat risks losing their pension. It's designed to confuse, and in parts it's nonsense......"it's English, Jim, but not as we know it....."

I gather you've not read similar documents produced within a large corporation?
This is a model of clarity in comparison.   

Well, I did work for British Rail but fortunately that coincided with the Campaign for Plain English.

There problem wasn't writing English it was speaking it especially over the Tanoy !! 

When I was at BR there was a continuous rumour going that they'd opened a special school at Crewe for station announcers.

But I never worked out if it was to make the announcements understandable or totally NON-understandable. 

[DarrenP2]

When I was at BR there was a continuous rumour going that they'd opened a special school at Crewe for station announcers.

But I never worked out if it was to make the announcements understandable or totally NON-understandable. 

what like the special module all medical students have to take before they become Doctors to make their handwriting eligible?

[PR19_Kit]

When I was at BR there was a continuous rumour going that they'd opened a special school at Crewe for station announcers.

But I never worked out if it was to make the announcements understandable or totally NON-understandable. 

what like the special module all medical students have to take before they become Doctors to make their handwriting eligible?

Maybe even the same school? 

[Martin H]

Luftwaffe or german army puma?

Canadian Airforce (Including rescue)
Australian Airforce or Army
New Zealand Airforce
Different RAF sqns and maybe the old Middle East airforce scheme
Rhodesian Airforce

Some good choices there. Myself and Thorvic have already covered the Royal Navy. Geoff did a Pinger and I did a Junglie.

Theres also possible war-pac options- useing Romainian built Pumas. Hmmm east German border gaurd Pumas shadowing the BGS Pumas on the internal border....................................

[Weaver]

How about alternative naval ones with different AShMs?

Marineflieger/Italian Navy with Kormoran (don't know if you'd need to put boosters on the missiles?)

RN/Indian Navy with Sea Eagles (definitely need the boosters)

Norwegian/Danish/Aus/NZ with Penguin Mk.2 Mod.7

RN/Marineflieger with Sea Skuas

Swedish Navy with RBS.15s  (can you get the missiles?)

French Navy with AS.15TTs (can you get the missiles?)