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(DONE, PICS Pg. 4) BF-109 G6 Trop.

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TheChronicOne

I have a couple of the bagged ones! My Yak 9 or 7 or whatever it was in the last before last GB was one of them bagged kits with the stapled on header/instructions. I have a fROG D 520 hanging on the wall that is one of them. I think I like the blister packs better though, they're so neat!! I know a lot of folks collect those specifically and I wouldn't mind trying to get all of them myself. How cool would it be to have a peg board of them all (or the bagged ones!! ) on the wall.  I wonder how many of them Airfix made... hmmm... 
-Sprues McDuck-

loupgarou

Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 17, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
I have a couple of the bagged ones! My Yak 9 or 7 or whatever it was in the last before last GB was one of them bagged kits with the stapled on header/instructions. I have a fROG D 520 hanging on the wall that is one of them. I think I like the blister packs better though, they're so neat!! I know a lot of folks collect those specifically and I wouldn't mind trying to get all of them myself. How cool would it be to have a peg board of them all (or the bagged ones!! ) on the wall.  I wonder how many of them Airfix made... hmmm...

Be careful! That's a dangerous slide.  ;D
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

zenrat

Quote from: loupgarou on May 17, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 17, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
I have a couple of the bagged ones! My Yak 9 or 7 or whatever it was in the last before last GB was one of them bagged kits with the stapled on header/instructions. I have a fROG D 520 hanging on the wall that is one of them. I think I like the blister packs better though, they're so neat!! I know a lot of folks collect those specifically and I wouldn't mind trying to get all of them myself. How cool would it be to have a peg board of them all (or the bagged ones!! ) on the wall.  I wonder how many of them Airfix made... hmmm...

Be careful! That's a dangerous slide.  ;D

Absolutely. Before you know it you'll be collecting instead of building.  Buying kits of aircraft you are not particularly keen on because of the cool box art and whacky fonts Hasegawa were using back in the late seventies/early eighties.  Oh hang on, thats me isn't it.  Bugger.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 17, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
How cool would it be to have a peg board of them all (or the bagged ones!! ) on the wall.  I wonder how many of them Airfix made... hmmm... 

You'd need a big wall. Back then Airfix released at least 4 new kits a month and that's not counting things like 1/12 scale figures or railway stuff * etc ? When you actually think about what they were doing back then it's amazing.

* I've now got quite nostalgic about one of the larger steam engine loco's I built with my dad acting as consultant  ;D
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on May 18, 2017, 01:43:02 AM

* I've now got quite nostalgic about one of the larger steam engine loco's I built with my dad acting as consultant  ;D


I've still got many of those in The Loft, and some of the Kitmaster ones as well, like the Garrett and the NYC Hudson, superb models for their age.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

TheChronicOne

Quote from: loupgarou on May 17, 2017, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 17, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
I have a couple of the bagged ones! My Yak 9 or 7 or whatever it was in the last before last GB was one of them bagged kits with the stapled on header/instructions. I have a fROG D 520 hanging on the wall that is one of them. I think I like the blister packs better though, they're so neat!! I know a lot of folks collect those specifically and I wouldn't mind trying to get all of them myself. How cool would it be to have a peg board of them all (or the bagged ones!! ) on the wall.  I wonder how many of them Airfix made... hmmm...

Be careful! That's a dangerous slide.  ;D

Tell me 'bout it!! I've stopped myself on a few occasions from buying lots on ebay of them knowing full well it would turn into a full blown addiction! Which reminds me.. I need to stop by the Airfix Collectors' board and catch up. Browser went TU a while back and lost all me open tabs.. no tellin' the places I've forgotten and will never get back to.  :rolleyes:
-Sprues McDuck-

TheChronicOne

Update:

Trimmed, sanded, and filed all that I could. Now, nothing remains but to trim the transfers if I so desire. Otherwise, just waiting on the opening bell to get underway! This is good, though.... a decent half hours worth of work/test fitting out of the way.
-Sprues McDuck-

TheChronicOne

Under way with the real deal now. Fuselage halves glued together, main wings halves glued together. I'm using a different glue now. I absolutely fell i love with the Testors applicator.... it's this tiny metal tube and man it's great but it was on what I call the "cold" glue that comes in the blue bottle. Takes longer to set up, etc. I bought 6 bottles of the "hot" though, the red stuff, really cheap (should be plenty to last at least 5 years or more at the rate I'm building!). The applicator tip is different but works just as well. It's plastic instead of the metal tube (Why is this?! Who knows... all other aspects are identical aside from the cap) and they were all manufactured in the same year, etc...   but anyway... it works just as well!!!  Man, this stuff gets the job done. It has a different smell and works much more rapidly.... this stuff is melting the plastic up nice and right and this should speed the process along which is important for a 1 week deadline (especially seeing as how I'm getting started a full day and a half late aside from my prep work.) 

Forgot to mention I washed the parts ahead of this....   

Anyway... after I let it set up awhile I'll glue the tail planes on the fuselage. In them mean time I suppose I can start painting things like the pilot, his seat, and other doo dads and maybe look to see what sub assemblies I can glue together. This thing is going to go fast I can already tell. The fit is nice and I did a lot of trimming and sanding before the build started so so far so good.

-Sprues McDuck-

TheChronicOne

What colors do I paint the pilot? Looking at pictures but I'm having a hard time telling if the flight uniforms are blue or some bluish grey or what?  RAF SEAC pilots in the SE Asia area...

I see different depictions... I'm seeing what looks like a dude dressed in brown stuff for probably high altitude cold weather stuff then I see fellers dressed up in like....   dress uniforms or something with yellow water gear...  uhhh...     Maybe someone could save me a bit of research. I'll let this marinate for awhile while I paint tires.  ;D












Maybe I just put the dog in the dogpit.... err.. cockpit and call it a day.   ;D







-Sprues McDuck-

TheChronicOne

And wheel wells!  Wheel wells, gear doors... what color should those be? This time I'm looking for the WWII Luftwaffe (I know, RAF pilots, Luftwaffe paint... it'll become obvious when I tell the story :D )  ... looking around I see other models and pictures with the stuff looking grey, but then I saw one model with them green kind of like how people used to (or still do) paint US Aircraft.    :unsure:

I'm admittedly being lazy here but I AM trying to my own research I just keep running into conflicting data and am trying to avoid going down the rabbit hole chasing each of these down. I know the folks around here a much more knowledgeable than I am and probably already know the answers so I'm thinking my greatest research asset are you all!

-Sprues McDuck-

zenrat

I use Vallejo Golden Olive for wheel wells and cockpits because I think its a really nice shade of green.
I occasionally put some Green Chromate over the top.
Unless its Russian and then I use a home made batch of Russian Interior teal.
However I don't really care if i'm inaccurate in these areas.

I like the idea of a Bf 109 flown by a Red Setter.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Old Wombat

WW2 RAF uniforms tended to be blue-grey, RAAF uniforms were more blue.

Bit of a discussion on Network54;
http://www.network54.com/Forum/180748/thread/1237914561/last-1238363348/view+entire+thread

Check the photo of the caps;
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/cloth-headgear-western-allies/raf-raaf-fs-cap-colour-comparison-30069/

However, from memory, both the RAF & RAAF had khaki/sand coloured tropical uniforms.
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

NARSES2

Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 28, 2017, 03:51:11 PM

I'm admittedly being lazy here but I AM trying to my own research I just keep running into conflicting data and am trying to avoid going down the rabbit hole chasing each of these down.

The joys of research  ;). Just when you think you've nailed something down  :banghead: There are very few definitives out there, and when there are, they can be time dependent/crucial.  :angel:

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

TheChronicOne

Quote from: NARSES2 on May 29, 2017, 06:23:08 AM
Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 28, 2017, 03:51:11 PM

I'm admittedly being lazy here but I AM trying to my own research I just keep running into conflicting data and am trying to avoid going down the rabbit hole chasing each of these down.

The joys of research  ;). Just when you think you've nailed something down  :banghead: There are very few definitives out there, and when there are, they can be time dependent/crucial.  :angel:


This historical stuff is strange in some aspects. I was always of the mind that all this type of stuff was widely known, there were records, etc.  But I keep finding that things of this era could be not known at all. Now days you can guarantee that every little aspect of every piece of machinery is methodically categorized and recorded but when it comes to WWII  era and surrounding???  Like Japanese aircraft or the color of an Israeli CS199 people just have no idea sometimes. People can't even tell with some of the stuff they DO have information on.  "Was this the true shade of the paint or had the aircraft been sitting in the sun for 3 years and lightened it?"  It really amazes me how LITTLE we know about something that went down less than a century ago when these days I can tell you what Ralph in Nantucket ate for lunch on the 3rd of September, 2014.

Thanks for the info, folks!!!  I think what I'll do is add a wee bit of blue to my neutral grey and mix it up and use that. I haven't painted any pilots that color yet so this ought to be cool. I'll paint his floaty-save-life-thing yellow and his cap brown. Should work!!   (oh and going in green on the wheel wells and gear doors.. should look real nice with the color I have going on the bottom).
-Sprues McDuck-

NARSES2

Quote from: TheChronicOne on May 29, 2017, 06:49:07 AM
when these days I can tell you what Ralph in Nantucket ate for lunch on the 3rd of September, 2014.



But can you ?  ;)

All depends how well detailed Ralph's notes are. If he just jots down "ham and eggs" there are numerous interpretations and most will make their way onto the Net as the accurate interpretation  ;D

No statement survives the first retelling, and that's not taking the deliberate missinterpretations into account  :rolleyes:

Go with what your research suggests is correct. You at least have the research to back your interpretation up  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.