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Looking for inspiration!

Started by nighthunter, August 20, 2017, 11:20:35 PM

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: steelpillow on August 22, 2017, 01:48:43 PM

(If I were building a canard Spit, I'd get a later bubble-canopy variant and simply fit the wings, tailplane and canopy back to front as a pusher type. Just need to cut off the fin and stick it in front of the prop, and find a longer nosewheel. OMG now you've got me started...)


With most Spitfire kits it'd be a bitch getting the wings to fit back-to-font. The majotity of them have the roots, with the angled chord-wise joints, moulded as part of the fuselage.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Quote from: steelpillow on August 22, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
(If I were building a canard Spit, I'd get a later bubble-canopy variant and simply fit the wings, tailplane and canopy back to front as a pusher type. Just need to cut off the fin and stick it in front of the prop, and find a longer nosewheel. OMG now you've got me started...)

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Quote from: steelpillow on August 22, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
How much kitbashing do you want to do? Evidently not a canard, but would any of these be within scope:
* DH Vampire/Venom twin-boom tail, much shortened fuselage. (Needs second tailwheel for the other boom)
Yes, a canard pusher is a possibility like what became a P-51H at http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/p78fpm_1.htm  :wub:
but I prefer the twin-boom idea very much :wub: :wub:
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Lord_Voyager

I always wondered what a Centaurus engined spitfire would look like... You would need to dig up a Sea Fury kit as a donor kit though...

scooter

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 22, 2017, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: steelpillow on August 22, 2017, 01:48:43 PM

(If I were building a canard Spit, I'd get a later bubble-canopy variant and simply fit the wings, tailplane and canopy back to front as a pusher type. Just need to cut off the fin and stick it in front of the prop, and find a longer nosewheel. OMG now you've got me started...)


With most Spitfire kits it'd be a bitch getting the wings to fit back-to-font. The majotity of them have the roots, with the angled chord-wise joints, moulded as part of the fuselage.

Carefully cut off the roots and flip them around?  PSR as needed, of course
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Turboprop spit? Or maybe a modern CAS spitfire with laser designators and lots of probes and sensors and stuff hanging off it? Maybe with some paveways and rocket pods? Also probably fitted with a turboprop
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Charlie_c67

A few ideas that get my vote  :lol:

Reno-style racer,
New engine - Radial, RR Vulture (that works!) or Napier Sabre
Ground Attack Version
Navalised Version

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Scotaidh

My local air museum has a Curtiss XF-15 Stingaree - a hybrid radial/jet fighter prototype. Suppose some boffin at the Air Ministry had a similar idea - combine the high speed of the jet engine with the economy and reliability of a piston engine for the best of both worlds?  It would make sense to use a proven air-frame and just modify it a bit  (OK, a lot).

Here's some pics of this rare bird so you can see what I'm talking about.



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PR19_Kit

I've never heard of that one before you posted the pics. Amazing.  :thumbsup:

I Googled it and it seems that's the only one left out of the three built. Mind you, Wiki also says the Museum is closed because the roof collapsed, so what do they know?
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

I was only aware of it because Olimp do a 1/72 kit of it
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steelpillow

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When I saw this Curtiss XF15 post, I thought it was a photoshopped whiff. But it's true. The jet engine was set in the lower fuselage below the pilot and exhausted through a single nozzle a little way back from the wing. It appears to have been fed by three intakes, one the nose beneath the engine and the others in the wing leading edge roots.

The XF15C-1, to give it its full name, was a Navy bird, hence the "15" numbering sequence. The beast in the photos is the third and last to be built and, like the second, features a T-tail. The first had a conventional tail and flew without its jet engine, but crashed anyway.

The type experienced severe vibrations and other issues during testing, but it is from here that the whiff world may legitimately adopt the project. The XF15C-3, which saw such successful action in the Korean War, springs rather obviously to mind.

And indeed, Supermarine tried something similar. The only engine then available, the de Havilland Goblin, had a radial compressor which would just about fit behind a massive American radial but, behind the Spit XVI's Merlin, it bulged out ominously both sideways and below, earning the converted prototype the nickname of "the pregnant Guppy". Try mating the upper half of your Spit to the lower half of a DH Vampire and you'll see what I mean. You'd have to cut a Spitfire-sized groove in the Vampire and slot the two together. Then graft the Vamp's root intakes onto the Spit's wings as a separate but pretty simple exercise. Go on, you know you want to!  :lol:
Cheers.

PR19_Kit

LOTS of potential in that backstory, nice one.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

nighthunter

Well, unfortunately I had to do a stash reduction and the Spit was one that had to go. On the upside, I now have a Fokker D.XXI, and I'm looking for inspiration for it.

Several ideas have cropped up:
USAAC Fokker USA P-28 Falcon
Rhodesian D.XXI (Early independence fighting German Colonial Afrika Korps)
Hellenic D.XXI
Polish D.XXI
Icelandic D.XXI
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scooter

I like the idea of an Icelandic D.XXI
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NARSES2

I like the idea of a USAAC D.XXI  :thumbsup:

Royal Hellenic would look good as well, might even throw a few people  ;) Built a few of the Special Hobby kit myself it's an aircraft that fits in really well with late 30's rearmament programmes.
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