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Resin casting... am I crazy!?

Started by strobez, September 01, 2017, 01:52:15 AM

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Is the resin a polyurethane or a polyester casting resin?

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The clear resins I've had have been polyester.  The last one went solid in the tin...

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strobez

Thanks for the reply guys. 

First off, I'm not sure what the deal with the resin is.  After closer inspection it seems it's a repackaged shop kit.  So basically there's just two bottles... marked Crystal Resin A and B.  I dunno... we'll wing it and see what happens.

I also poured my first mold today and made my first mistake.  I should've mixed the silicone longer.  The one I have is a 3% mix ratio... so once I added the small amount of part B and started mixing and everything turned pink.  However, as I started pouring (trying to be quick and do a "high pour" to minimize bubbles) I realized I hadn't mixed it well at the bottom.  Near the end of the pour I started getting a bit of whitish clumps.

Now a few hours later and the pink part is already rubbery... while the white part is still a bit like molasses.  I'm not quite sure what to do about it... will the white part eventually solidify? If not, when I crack open the mold, I might still have enough of it to be functional.  It won't be pretty, but if it works...

At least it smells of lavender.  I guess that's what happens when you buy your silicone at a candle shop.  :mellow:
Thanks!

Greg

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Quote from: strobez on September 04, 2017, 04:24:24 AM

I also poured my first mold today and made my first mistake.  I should've mixed the silicone longer.  The one I have is a 3% mix ratio... so once I added the small amount of part B and started mixing and everything turned pink.  However, as I started pouring (trying to be quick and do a "high pour" to minimize bubbles) I realized I hadn't mixed it well at the bottom.  Near the end of the pour I started getting a bit of whitish clumps.

Now a few hours later and the pink part is already rubbery... while the white part is still a bit like molasses.  I'm not quite sure what to do about it... will the white part eventually solidify? If not, when I crack open the mold, I might still have enough of it to be functional.  It won't be pretty, but if it works...

In my experience  :rolleyes:  the only thing to do is learn from it and start again   :banghead:
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strobez

Well, I checked it when I woke up this morning. I think you might be right.

However in a last ditch effort, I mixed in a few more drops of the hardening compound.  I've either created a new way to make an asymmetrical 2-part old... or I've created a rubber door stop for my son's room.  Either way, everybody wins!  :rolleyes:
Thanks!

Greg

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Quote from: strobez on September 03, 2017, 04:26:22 AM
Apparently the crystal clear resin is used to permanently encase the perfect miniature sushi dinner setting you've created.    :wub:

I have successfully used clear resin to "preserve" a fish finger pyramid... Successfuly, and it had three levels! Was a "special" birthday present... made with love.  :wacko:

Anyway, you can use clear resin for casting, but you will find that it has a different consistency from opaque material. I found the stuff for instance hard to sand, because I found the clear stuff to be (and remain) a bit sticky.

strobez

Well, I'm happy to report that my son is now enjoying his new doorstop...  :banghead:

However, the part of the mold that was mixed properly worked fabulously... so it's off to round two!
Thanks!

Greg

strobez

Success! After "Mold Mix 2: Fully Blended" I believe I have created an actual, albeit simple, 1-part cup mold.  I'm giving it a test run as an ice cube tray, since I only had time to poke it a couple of times this morning as I left tor the office - amidst a few calls from my wife to stop playing with my toys and get to work  :-X

Still, I'm feeling that early glow of success... you know the one, that brief moment of hope and glory before it all comes crashing down... so I think I'm ready to try moving right along to "Mold Mix 3: Revenge of the Two-Part Car Mold" (the title is a work in progress).
Thanks!

Greg

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Quote from: strobez on September 05, 2017, 08:07:50 PM
Well, I'm happy to report that my son is now enjoying his new doorstop...  :banghead:


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Quote from: strobez on September 06, 2017, 04:50:39 PM

Still, I'm feeling that early glow of success... you know the one, that brief moment of hope and glory before it all comes crashing down...

Yup, I do know that feeling  ;) Glad you are getting there  :thumbsup:
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Quote from: strobez on September 06, 2017, 04:50:39 PM
Still, I'm feeling that early glow of success... you know the one, that brief moment of hope and glory before it all comes crashing down...

Oh, so well! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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strobez

So... I think I succeed. It's too early to call it, but the early returns seem positive.

After getting the negative side of my two-part Mold in place, I started in on the resin and did a recreation of the 3 bears story... too hot, too cold, just right.  My first cast I was so worried about the quick set I failed to mix it properly.  It came out sticky and partially clear... oops.

The second cast I was more nonchalant and ended up trying to shove the top of the Mold into a puddle of suddenly (and very quickly) clear goo turning white.  Hence the giant blob squished out the side.  The third time I mixed thoroughly and poured quickly... and you can see the results for yourself.







Thanks!

Greg

PR19_Kit

That's amazing, well done indeed.  :thumbsup:

How did you make the two part mould though? I can figure out the main bit of the lower part, but how did you make those four locating studs for the upper part without bonding the whole thing together?
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

loupgarou

I see you have already gone to a difficult mould. A two-part one and it came out well, congratulations.  :thumbsup:
And I imagine you used the trick of blocking the window openings with scotch tape or similar preparing the mould.
As the resin appears white, I suppose you have already bought a more appropriate kind, instead of the transparent one.
BTW, that car looks like a Fiat 600, not a 500.  <_<
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strobez

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Well, as I mentioned earlier in in thread, I was able to successfully craft a one-part mold, so I moved on to a slightly more complex one. The car body shell seems to be about the easiest next step in terms of graduating to a two-part mold. I tried to create an air vent, but i'm not sure I accomplished anything more than adding a bit of sprue.

Anyway, to make the mold, the first thing I did was pack the inside of the car shell with clay. Then I made a flat clay base and pushed a plastic cardboard fence into it. Then I placed the car inside and used more clay to plug any gaps along the perimeter. After it was sealed, I keyed the mold by punching those round locating posts into the clay using a bit of styrene tubing.

After that, it was mix up a bit of silicone, pour and pray.  :)

I waited a full day and then cracked open the mold, pulled the car and the clay out, cleaned it out carefully and then plunked I back in the mold. I flipped the mold over, sealed the gaps with clay and painted everything in sight with Vaseline...

Then I put on the robe lit a candle, made made few incantations, and poured the second half.

It's a good thing I went that extra step too, I had to squeeze and scrape to get enough silicone to cover the mold fully.  I guess my calculations were a bit off.

Anyway, in the end, I got a mold and put the resin I got yesterday (which was an whole 'nother adventure with a Korean chemicals wholesaler in itself) to good use this morning after the silicone had set.  I was a little worried about the locating posts... they almost didn't want to separate.  But in the end they did.  The only things I would have done differently is a) not to bother with a vent hole on a pour and push mold. And b) build up more of a clay base under the car.  Some silicone got under the car, so I had to carefully trim the excess away before I poured the second half because I was worried it would lock the mold shut.
Thanks!

Greg