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1:72 Super heavy E-100 Ausf. D battle tank

Started by Dizzyfugu, November 20, 2017, 01:04:08 AM

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Quote from: Snowtrooper on November 23, 2017, 02:10:51 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on November 22, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
As an related side note: Due the weight, this thing was also supposed to wade through bodies of water (instead of over it on a bridge or ferry), and there was an interesting two-vehicle combo of two connected tanks, one running under water and the other on land supplying the diving one with air and electricity. Must have been horribly complicated, though.
Wasn't that the Maus though, not E-100?

Re the colours, using a combination of Panzergrau and RLM02 makes total sense, because even in OTL Germany was fast running out of paints already by late 1944. Usually, the reddish rust protection was overpainted already in the factory with the "base" colour (Dunkelgelb), and the camouflage colours were then sent to frontline units which were supposed to mix those with oil, but oil being rather precious by then, they often used water, alcholol, whatever was at hand (leading to a wild inconsistency in opacity and tone; patterns had always been only "recommendations"). However, some factories ran out of paint altogether (there are examples of Panthers with only their turret painted in yellow, and their hull unpainted and camo applied directly on top of the rustproofing), and even those factories that had paint were in the process of switching from Dunkelgelb to Olivgrün as supplies of the former were running out; eventually, they were running out of Olivgrün too and so reverted back to the pre-1943 Panzergrau of which there was still plenty in stock (there's anecdotal evidence of even a grey Tiger II being encountered).

My understanding is that until ~1943, the base colour was Panzer Grey.  From mid-1943-late-1944-early-1945, the base colour was basically "Desert Yellow" and from early 1945 until the end it became a green colour. They attempted to adhere to those instructions as much as possible but in the last month or so, the supply system broke down almost completely for things like paints.  Their biggest problem was the lack of solvents, in which the dyes could be dissolved and it then applied to the vehicles.  Their use of petrol as a solvent didn't help either, even if it was more efficient than water.
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zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2017, 06:04:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 23, 2017, 01:44:09 AM

You might have to plan your route to avoid crossing over bridges through.


Most railway bridges are built with HUGE safety factors, even when they were built centuries ago, but that often doesn't apply to the groundwork on each side. In my bridge testing period at BR we tested a bridge in S Yorks that was amply strong enough, but the river banks on each side sank alarmingly! And it took some work to get them back up again.

When built they may have had huge safety factors but I doubt the designers took into account the RAF.  Their attentions may have reduced those safety factors.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Dizzyfugu

Paint on German vehicles is a complicated matter, and even though there were official regulations the supply situation had become dire and there were old paint stocks that were to be used up before new standards could or would be implemented. Mixing or stretching paint and primer had also become a frequent practice towards 1945, and frontline units frequently used enemy paints and other material wherever they got hands on it - all the time, but esp. in North Africa. IIRC, the green (RAL 6003) base paint/factory finish was confined to the Panther only.