Shackletunderland

[ericr]

zany, zanier, zaniest ?

still beyond my usual skill, but going there anyway 

two quite vintage kits, found for cheap, and waiting in my stash for quite some time :
an Airfix Sunderland
a Frog Shackleton

[loupgarou]

A daring project!
But you'll have to raise the wings a lot, or make a very steep gull-wing.

[PR19_Kit]

You could graft the upper fuselage of the Sunderland, complete with roots, into the top of the Shackleton perhaps?

[ericr]

thanks !

I thought about the wings question just after I had started cutting ... luckily, otherwise it might have discouraged me

In between I thought about it, and began cutting the wing root to place it higher up,
but found out that there is a part in the kit going from within one wing to the other in order to keep them straight and together :
I think I can just use that to attach the wing at the top of the Shackleton fuselage, so it might work out not too difficultly

wait and see

[Captain Canada]

Excellent idea ! I've been wanting up-engine one using Shak engines and props, but this is way better !

[McColm]

Good idea,
I'm experimenting with the Lockheed Constellation instead of the Shackleton and the  Shinmiewa PS-1 hull & wings. The wings will be fitted to a shoulder mount, that I'm creating.
I look forward to your build being completed.

[jcf]

 

Something similar was actually proposed using Lancaster bits:

[The Rat]

Oh yeah, this is gonna be GOOOOOD!

[The Rat]

Excellent idea ! I've been wanting up-engine one using Shak engines and props, but this is way better !

If you do, you'll want to re-align the engines so that they point straight forward. The Sunderland configuration has them pointed 4 degrees outward, which caused a pronounced nose-up flick if power was suddenly reduced. With the extra power of the Griffons that could be a problem.

[McColm]

Something similar was actually proposed using Lancaster bits:

That gives me an idea for the 1/72 "Mavis' flying boat and Shackleton spare parts.

[ericr]

I am busy finding a (simple enough for my skills) solution to put the wings higher up ;

what my skills certainly do not allow is to consider angles with a precision of 4 degrees 

[The Rat]

I am busy finding a (simple enough for my skills) solution to put the wings higher up ;

what my skills certainly do not allow is to consider angles with a precision of 4 degrees 

  Perhaps an easier way would be to straighten the leading edge of the wing and shim the trailing edge root. The Sunderland prototype had a straight leading edge, but when the 4-gun Fraser Nash tail turret was fitted it introduced a C of G problem. It was rectified by giving the wings a 4° sweep, but the engine mounts were never modified to adjust for that.

[ericr]

busy managing the wing attachement ...
it will be high enough, with a kind of shoulder like a Shinmeiwa

[ericr]

some progress ....





still quite some work to make it water tight ... 

[ericr]

and by the way, what about the rest of the Sunderland, shall you ask?
as was noted recently somewhere around here, I like to use all parts or at least most of them,
so there will be a waterline Sunderland (with special experimental floats arrangement)