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December 14, 2017, 07:36:12 PM Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 10:43:34 PM by KJ_Lesnick
I was told about an idea from somebody on another forum about ways the YP-37's nose could have been shortened by using a radiator more like the YB-38, anybody know what I'm talking about?
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

ysi_maniac

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December 14, 2017, 08:21:20 PM
?????
P-37 as such didn't exist. http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/1-USA/01-Fighters/P-37/YP-37.htm
?????
A different kind of P-40?
:unsure: :unsure:
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jcf

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December 14, 2017, 08:41:38 PM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on December 14, 2017, 08:21:20 PM
?????
P-37 as such didn't exist. http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/1-USA/01-Fighters/P-37/YP-37.htm
?????
A different kind of P-40?
:unsure: :unsure:

The XP-37 and YP-37 were Curtiss's earlier stab at an inline engined P-36. The XP-37 was a one off,
but, 13 examples of a modified version were ordered as the YP-37 service test aircraft. The engine
was a turbo-charged V-1710.

Eventually the work led to the P-40, which had a belly radiator aft of the cockpit in its first iteration.















PR19_Kit

#3
December 15, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
If the pilot of the YP-37 was any further aft he'd be behind the aircraft!  :o

It must have been the very devil to land!
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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TallEng

#4
December 15, 2017, 12:48:46 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 15, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
If the pilot of the YP-37 was any further aft he'd be behind the aircraft!  :o

It must have been the very devil to land!

Yeah!
But it's a ready made Reno Race plane, just needs smoothing out a bit and a really tiny canopy.
Ready to race ;D
Just as well I don't have a kit or I'd be sorely tempted.  :rolleyes:

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Keith
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jcf

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December 15, 2017, 10:25:14 AM Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 10:29:17 AM by joncarrfarrelly
I have the resin 1/48 LF Models YP-37, a bit rough in spots but it'll get ya there,
the kit has markings for the high-vis Arctic scheme they wore during testing in
Alaska.



Here's a nice colour shot of the XP-37 at the factory. I had an even shorter tail than the YP-37,
which got a 25" extension aft of the cockpit.

KJ_Lesnick

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December 15, 2017, 10:44:19 PM Last Edit: December 15, 2017, 10:51:34 PM by KJ_Lesnick
ysi_maniac

QuoteP-37 as such didn't exist. http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/1-USA/01-Fighters/P-37/YP-37.htm
Corrected

JCF

QuoteThe XP-37 and YP-37 were Curtiss's earlier stab at an inline engined P-36. The XP-37 was a one off,
but, 13 examples of a modified version were ordered as the YP-37 service test aircraft. The engine
was a turbo-charged V-1710.
Yup

PR19_Kit

QuoteIf the pilot of the YP-37 was any further aft he'd be behind the aircraft!  :o
That was the basic problem with the aircraft, it's visibility over the nose absolutely sucked
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

jcf

#7
December 16, 2017, 11:20:03 PM
Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on December 14, 2017, 07:36:12 PM
I was told about an idea from somebody on another forum about ways the YP-37's nose could have been shortened by using a radiator more like the YB-38, anybody know what I'm talking about?

You mean XB-38, I gather.



Umm, yeah, an under-chin radiator and oil-cooler cluster just gives you a P-40. So what's the point exactly?

NARSES2

#8
December 17, 2017, 01:20:19 AM
I've not seen that one Jon. Nice looking airplane. Thanks  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

KJ_Lesnick

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December 20, 2017, 05:44:03 AM Last Edit: February 13, 2018, 02:26:01 PM by KJ_Lesnick
joncarrfarrelly,

QuoteYou mean XB-38, I gather.
Yes
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

jcf

#10
December 21, 2017, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on December 20, 2017, 05:44:03 AM
QuoteUmm, yeah, an under-chin radiator and oil-cooler cluster just gives you a P-40. So what's the point exactly?
It would probably have a few other differences, the nose would probably still be longer, and an intercooler intake in the wings would probably be added: From a performance standpoint, being able to cruise around at 25,000 feet would have been pretty neat.

So, if you're putting that kind of radiator nose on the beast, where does the turbo-supercharger go?

rickshaw

#11
December 21, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on December 21, 2017, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on December 20, 2017, 05:44:03 AM
QuoteUmm, yeah, an under-chin radiator and oil-cooler cluster just gives you a P-40. So what's the point exactly?
It would probably have a few other differences, the nose would probably still be longer, and an intercooler intake in the wings would probably be added: From a performance standpoint, being able to cruise around at 25,000 feet would have been pretty neat.

So, if you're putting that kind of radiator nose on the beast, where does the turbo-supercharger go?

In front of the propeller of course, Jon.  ;)  :banghead:
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jcf

#12
December 21, 2017, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on December 21, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
In front of the propeller of course, Jon.  ;)  :banghead:

;D ;D ;D :thumbsup:

KJ_Lesnick

#13
December 22, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on December 21, 2017, 07:47:21 PMSo, if you're putting that kind of radiator nose on the beast, where does the turbo-supercharger go?
The idea I figure would be to place it the same as the YB-38.
That being said, I'd like to remind everybody in a manner reminiscent of the SNL bit on Julian Assange, that no matter how I die: It was murder (even if there was a suicide note or a video of me peacefully dying in my sleep); should I be framed for a criminal offense or disappear, you know to blame.

jcf

#14
December 25, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
Quote from: KJ_Lesnick on December 22, 2017, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on December 21, 2017, 07:47:21 PMSo, if you're putting that kind of radiator nose on the beast, where does the turbo-supercharger go?
The idea I figure would be to place it the same as the YB-38.

You wouldn't have the room to duplicate the XB-38 installation, the Allisons were mounted to the
standard B-17 firewall, which was round for its round engines, much larger than the Allisons,
giving lots of room in the engine  mounting envelope.



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