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Updated Rotodyne, sort of

Started by Scotaidh, January 01, 2018, 06:05:51 AM

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Scotaidh

I've thought for some time that 'Rotodyning' a Herky-bird would produce a real V/STOL aircraft with a useful capacity.

(I couldn't believe that no-one here hadn't already thought of this, so I did a search on "Rotodyne" prior to posting - apparently not.)

I have several Rotodynes in my SSR (Strategic Styrene Reserve), so all I need is a suitable C-130 ... perhaps a Transall would be better, or a Buffalo?  I guess there are many potential conversions, depending on desired size.  One could even have a range of such craft, from two-seat on up.

I'm thinking there'd be almost no end to the uses/roles for such birds - Coast Guard, Inshore Rescue, Assault, Supply, Customs, Surveillance, Border Patrol. 
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PR19_Kit

There have been a number of 'dynes modelled and shown on here in the past, but maybe not one merged with a C-130.

Sadly the search engine isn't as food as it might be and it's integral with the package so it can't be fixed apparently.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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kitnut617

There was a thread discussing this somewhere here on the forum. All sorts of ideas came up and loads of pictures of some original RW projects too.

I even got a load of parts collected to do a ""C-130"" type 'dyne. I've even designed a couple of really big 'dynes too, had them posted but with the PB debacle they've all disappeared.
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McColm

I'm building a Heliplane based on a C-130 with the tail from a Lockheed Constellation and the rotor stack comes the Mil 26 helicopter. There's two stubs one on each side of the fuselage that houses  TF33 turbofans.
1/72 and there's pictures on my blog as well, that's where I got my idea from.

jcf

Yes, the Groen Gyro-Hercules has been discussed here and on Secret Projects.



As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


PR19_Kit

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


Perish the thought!  :o :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


Perish the thought!  :o :banghead:

Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.

kitnut617

Quote from: Scotaidh on January 01, 2018, 06:05:51 AM
I've thought for some time that 'Rotodyning' a Herky-bird would produce a real V/STOL aircraft with a useful capacity.

(I couldn't believe that no-one here hadn't already thought of this, so I did a search on "Rotodyne" prior to posting - apparently not.)

I have several Rotodynes in my SSR (Strategic Styrene Reserve), so all I need is a suitable C-130 ... perhaps a Transall would be better, or a Buffalo?  I guess there are many potential conversions, depending on desired size.  One could even have a range of such craft, from two-seat on up.

I'm thinking there'd be almost no end to the uses/roles for such birds - Coast Guard, Inshore Rescue, Assault, Supply, Customs, Surveillance, Border Patrol.

If you do a search using 'Groen', all sorts of threads pop up on here.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


Perish the thought!  :o :banghead:

Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.


I was joking.

(see my infamous tag line..........)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Scotaidh

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


Perish the thought!  :o :banghead:

Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.


I was joking.

(see my infamous tag line..........)

Just pivot the wings ...  ;)
Thistle dew, Pig - thistle dew!

Where am I going?  And why am I in a handbasket?

It's dark in the dark when it's dark. Ancient Ogre Proverb

"All right, boyz - the plan iz 'Win.'  And if ya lose, it's yer own fault 'coz ya didn't follow the plan."

scooter

Quote from: Scotaidh on January 01, 2018, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 01, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on January 01, 2018, 12:55:43 PM

As I've stated previously the wings would need to be shortened, kind of a Breguet 941
look would work.


Perish the thought!  :o :banghead:

Well, if you wanted it to actually perform in a semi-VTOL mode;), it'd be necessary, otherwise
the area under the rotor disc would just interfere, if it's rolling take-offs only, it's so-so.


I was joking.

(see my infamous tag line..........)

Just pivot the wings ...  ;)
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zenrat

No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.

Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.
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- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Thorvic

Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.

Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.

Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?
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kitnut617

Quote from: scooter on January 01, 2018, 03:44:20 PM


You know, with the short wings the A400M has, give it some bigger props (maybe contra-props) and then space the engines out a bit more along the wing  --------    ;D
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Caveman

Quote from: Thorvic on January 02, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: zenrat on January 02, 2018, 12:09:50 AM
No no no, a tilt wing Herky Bird is one of an altogether feather.

Tell you what Scotaidh, if you get this off the ground then i'll start on my long planned Nenes & Pegasus 'dyne.

Cross-Kit a Fairey Rotodyne with a Dornier 31 ?

Now that's an idea!
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