Jumo 222 engine in 1/72

Started by rickshaw, January 25, 2018, 11:09:31 PM

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rickshaw

The Jumo 222 was supposed to be the vunderveapon of the Luftwaffe.  It was planned to be used to power most of the Luftwaffe's advanced projects in the early-mid war period.   However, none ever reached production and eventually, the aircraft projects were all cancelled or powered by other engines.

German projects to be powered by the Jumo 222 were, according to Wikipedia:

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*    Dornier Do 435 (when no jet engine replaced the rear piston engine)
*    Focke-Wulf Fw 300
*    Heinkel He 219B & -C
*    Heinkel He 277 (as a later Amerika Bomber-related alternative to fitting six BMW 801 radials, July 1943 development proposal only)
*    Hütter Hü 211
*    Junkers Ju 288

    Prototype proposals designed to use Jumo 222 engine power:

*    Arado E.340 (twin 222s, a Bomber B competitor)
*    Focke-Wulf Fw P.195 (six/eight Jumo 222s, very large transport aircraft)

My question is - is there a readily available Resin aftermarket conversion model of this (ie a replacement cowling)?    If so, where can I get one?
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rickshaw

Quote from: TomZ on January 26, 2018, 12:11:51 AM
Only know of one in 1/48:

http://www.antaresmodels.com/php/web/index.php/seccion/detail?id=38

TomZ

Thanks.  I'd forgotten that one.  I've just sent them an email to see if they'd convert their 1/48 version to 1/72.
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PR19_Kit

A BIT expensive???  :o

And they have the gall to charge almost half the purchase price for postage!
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kitnut617

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What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html
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rickshaw

Quote from: rickshaw on January 27, 2018, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: TomZ on January 26, 2018, 12:11:51 AM
Only know of one in 1/48:

http://www.antaresmodels.com/php/web/index.php/seccion/detail?id=38

TomZ

Thanks.  I'd forgotten that one.  I've just sent them an email to see if they'd convert their 1/48 version to 1/72.

Just received notification that he was planning to do this sometime "in the future".  No timeline provided.   :banghead:
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jcf

Quote from: kitnut617 on January 28, 2018, 06:03:50 AM
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).

Scotaidh

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on February 02, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: kitnut617 on January 28, 2018, 06:03:50 AM
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).

I was wondering how they managed to make a liquid-cooled radial engine - can you imagine a Corsair with such an engine?
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Quote from: Scotaidh on February 03, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on February 02, 2018, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: kitnut617 on January 28, 2018, 06:03:50 AM
What about a cowling off a Heinkel 177 which had DB610 engines of the same layout.

Or this:

http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/9khzwohtrzrp6lczcker.html

The Jumo 222 was a radial layout 24-cylinder engine, 6 inline banks of 4 cylinders each,
rather than a pair of V-12s hooked together.



Brian, the 222 is 1,160 mm (45.75 in) in diameter, and being circular in cross-section,
bodging up your own cowling should be fairly straightforward. Length is 2,400 mm (94.5 in).

I was wondering how they managed to make a liquid-cooled radial engine - can you imagine a Corsair with such an engine?

Thanks for that photo Jon, don't know what I was reading about then ----   :rolleyes:  So three V-8's on a common crank then ---  :-\
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jcf

Salmson had liquid cooled radials before and during WWI, no mystery to making a liquid cooled radial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmson_water-cooled_aero-engines

Anyhow the 222 isn't a true radial as the term is generally used in reference to aircraft engines,
rather it is a multi-bank engine with a radially symmetrical layout.

Rick Lowe

So much like the Chrysler Multibank in the Sherman M4A4, then.

zenrat

A liquid cooled rotary (aircraft type, not wankel) engine would be the tricky one to build.
Picture a Sopwith Camel with radiators spinning around as well as the prop and the engine...
:o
Fred

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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 03, 2018, 02:24:44 PM
   :rolleyes:  So three V-8's on a common crank then ---  :-\

No, rather six 4-cylinder inline engines placed around a common crankshaft. Mind-boggling, and it's no wonder that the engine was shelved and revived several times in the course of the war period.

jcf

Quote from: zenrat on February 04, 2018, 12:02:22 AM
A liquid cooled rotary (aircraft type, not wankel) engine would be the tricky one to build.
Picture a Sopwith Camel with radiators spinning around as well as the prop and the engine...
:o

Nah, total loss system like the majority of steam locos.  ;D