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Weaver

#45
July 18, 2021, 04:27:43 AM
...and if it falleth to me to slay the nested quotes then so be it...

I think the reason the 'simple' double delta looks wrong is that it adds wing area aft without compensating for it forwards. Remember, the Draken's inner wing had 80 deg of sweep compared to the Mirage's 60 deg.

Here I've reduced the span of Scotaidh's wingtip extension a little, straightened it's trailing edge, extended the inner wing leading edge, and extended the intake duct to provide the latter somewhere to mount to. I think it looks better, though whether it's an improvement on the original 'pure' wing is debatable.

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PR19_Kit

#46
July 18, 2021, 05:23:25 AM
Exactly.  :thumbsup:

Dassault got the Mirage IV SO right first time around, better than any of their other Mirages I reckon, that it's very difficult, of not impossible, to improve upon it.

In fact, it may be the ONLY aircraft to which my First Rule does not apply.......  ;D ;D ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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kitnut617

#47
July 18, 2021, 05:33:28 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 18, 2021, 05:23:25 AM

In fact, it may be the ONLY aircraft to which my First Rule does not apply.......  ;D ;D ;D

Just think of it as a bigger, longer wing for a Mirage III but it was so big they had to make the fuselage bigger and longer too ----  ;D
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PR19_Kit

#48
July 18, 2021, 05:49:39 AM
But wait, maybe there IS a way..............

Keeping the simple wing sweep angle and shape, plus F-15/Tornado type intakes...




And to keep the nose/fuselage proportions similar we could extend the nose too.



Yes, either of those solutions is a LOT of plastic engineering, but we're good at that, aren't we?  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

#49
July 18, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
Both Scotaidh's and Weaver's mods look very Gerry Anderson  :thumbsup:

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NARSES2

#50
July 18, 2021, 06:01:59 AM
Your second mod Kit and one or two of the others make it look a little like what a pure delta XF.108 Rapier might have looked like.
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kitbasher

#51
July 18, 2021, 08:14:51 AM
XF-108ness abounds!
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#52
July 18, 2021, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 18, 2021, 05:49:39 AM
But wait, maybe there IS a way..............

Keeping the simple wing sweep angle and shape, plus F-15/Tornado type intakes...




And to keep the nose/fuselage proportions similar we could extend the nose too.



Yes, either of those solutions is a LOT of plastic engineering, but we're good at that, aren't we?  ;)

Those are quite similar to some of Dassault's proposals to the Minerve program, although it had a high wing and a tail. It was a project for a missile carrier follow on to Mirage IV. 
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#53
November 01, 2022, 07:22:28 AM
Be still my beating heart  :wub:

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zenrat

#54
November 02, 2022, 03:54:44 AM
Its a shame fit may well turn out to be terrible.   :banghead:
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NARSES2

#55
November 02, 2022, 06:39:05 AM
Quote from: zenrat on November 02, 2022, 03:54:44 AMIts a shame fit may well turn out to be terrible.   :banghead:

Yup. I've an Ace kit in the stash which I got from Modelzone so that shows how old it is and I'm hoping it's better than that. Nonetheless I shall wait for a review before passing notes over the counter.
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KiwiZac

#56
November 14, 2022, 03:21:33 PM
The Mauler is apparently the old Siga kit with new bits.
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#57
November 15, 2022, 03:24:49 PM
The Siga Mauler wasn't that bad, although mine has yet to see any paint.
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#58
November 15, 2022, 06:31:59 PM
That's one I'd like to build. Always been a fan of those giant US Navy singles.
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#59
February 04, 2023, 07:24:20 AM
A&A have announced their plans for 2023-2024 on Facebook.  https://www.facebook.com/AAModels.scalekits
Their official website is broken.

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Hawk 200  :wub:
Skyraider AD-SW, AD-5N and AD-5Q variants
RF-61 Reporter and XP-61
Maulers, early and late versions
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