1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2 (with Jumo 222E), early 1946

Dizzyfugu · February 23, 2018, 10:13:07 AM

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Some background:
The Focke-Wulf Ta 152 was a World War II German high-altitude fighter-interceptor designed by Kurt Tank and produced by Focke-Wulf. The fighter was a development of the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 aircraft. Originally it was intended to be made in three versions—the Ta 152H Höhenjäger ("high-altitude fighter"), the Ta 152C designed for medium-altitude operations and ground-attack, using a different engine and smaller wing, and finally the Ta 152E fighter-reconnaissance aircraft with the engine of the H model and the short wing of the C model.

The fighters, esp. the high altitude variants, had top priority. The initial Fw 190's BMW 801 engine was originally designed for bomber and transport aircraft flying at medium altitudes in the 15,000 to 20,000 feet (4,600 to 6,100 m) range. In keeping with this role, it used a relatively simple single-stage supercharger that lacked performance above 20,000 feet (6,100 m) altitude. This presented a problem for fighter use, where high-altitude performance was desirable. Through careful tuning, the Fw 190 instead emerged as a powerful medium altitude design. Several experimental models of the 190 with different engines were tested, primarily aiming at an improved high altitude performance. But these were not high priority projects or failed through various teething troubles with the innovative engines.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

The entry of the United States into the war brought with it a series of heavy bombers and escort fighters optimized for operations at higher altitudes, around 25,000 feet (7,600 m). At these altitudes, the BMW 801-powered 190 found itself at a distinct disadvantage, and this problem became acute in early 1944 when the P-51 Mustang arrived in quantity. This led to the introduction of the Fw 190D-9, mounting the Junkers Jumo 213E engine. This engine had a two-stage supercharger and much better altitude performance. However, the rest of the aircraft's design, especially the relatively short wings, made it difficult to fly at high altitudes. While the D-9 upgrade was expedient, it was not ideal.

This led to the more refined Ta 152. Kurt Tank originally designed the Ta 152 with the 44.52 litre displacement Daimler-Benz DB 603 engine, as it offered better high-altitude performance and also a greater developmental potential. The DB 603 had been used in the Fw 190C prototypes but had many problems and was considered too difficult to implement in the Ta 152 by RLM officials. With this in mind, Tank focused his efforts on the 213E as the Ta 152H's power plant. However, he insisted that the DB 603 be retained for the Ta 152C versions and as an option for later versions of the Ta 152H.

The Ta 152's fuselage was an extended version of the Fw 190D-9 fuselage with wider-chord fixed vertical tail surfaces (especially the top half), and hydraulic rather than electrically controlled undercarriage and flaps. Due to the changes in the center of gravity and overall balance, the nose was also lengthened. The D-9 retained the 10.51 metres (34.5 ft) wingspan of the original pre-war Fw 190 models, but this was slightly extended for the C model to 11 metres (36 ft), and greatly extended for the H model to 14.44 metres (47.4 ft), which gave it much better control at high altitudes at the cost of speed at lower altitudes.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Due to the war's impact on aluminum availability, the wing was built around two steel spars, the front extending from just past the landing gear attachment points, and the rear spar spanning the entire wing. The wing itself was designed with 3° of washout, from the root to the flap-aileron junction, to prevent the ailerons from stalling before the center section of the wing. The Ta 152 featured the FuG 16ZY and FuG 25a radio equipment, but some aircraft were issued with an FuG 125 Hermine D/F for navigation and blind landing, LGW-Siemens K 23 autopilot, and a heated armor glass windscreen for bad-weather operations.

By October 1944, the war was going very badly for Germany, and the RLM pushed Focke-Wulf to quickly get the Ta 152 into production. As a result, several Ta 152 prototypes crashed early into the test program. It was found that critical systems were lacking sufficient quality control. Problems arose with superchargers, pressurized cockpits leaked, the engine cooling system was unreliable at best due in part to unreliable oil temperature monitoring, and in several instances the landing gear failed to properly retract. A total of up to 20 pre-production Ta 152 H-0s were delivered from November 1944 to Erprobungskommando Ta 152 to service test the aircraft. It was reported that test pilots were only able to conduct a mere 31 hours of flight tests before full production hastily started.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

In parallel, further attempts were made to improve the Ta 152's performance. One development path were the J and K models, which were to be powered by the Jumo 222 engine. Design work on the high-power Jumo 222 had already started in 1937, and it had had a winding development story.
The massive engine looked like a radial due to its arrangement, since it was configured with six inline cylinder banks spaced at equal angles around the central crankcase, each bank having four cylinders. Like most inlines it was liquid-cooled and typically connected with an annular radiator around the propeller shaft. Compared with the contemporary BMW 801 and Daimler-Benz DB 605, the 222 was a huge leap in performance. It had only a slightly larger displacement figure than the 801's 41.8 L (2,550.8 in³), and about 25% more than the 605's 35.7 L (2,178.5 in³), but delivered considerably more power: 1,850 kW (2,500 hp) compared to 1,193 kW (1,600 hp) in the 801 and 1,119 kW (1,500 hp) in the 605. Such was the projected performance of the engine compared to contemporary designs that many developments of wartime Luftwaffe piston-engined aircraft designs were based on it, at least as an option. Notable among these was the entire "Bomber B" program, which looked to replace all existing Luftwaffe bombers with a new twin-engine design that was larger, faster and more heavily armed than any aircraft in their inventory.

However, the engine's development was protracted and complex, so that the project had been shelved and revived several times in the course of the following years. Junkers did not give up on it, though, and, towards late 1944, a functional variant finally emerged. Using the original 46.4 litre displacement A/B design, Junkers added a new two-stage supercharger including a trio of aftercoolers, one per pair of neighboring cylinder banks for high-altitude use, and produced the 222E and F-series. Although sea-level performance was unchanged at 1,850 kW (2,500 hp), the engine was able to produce 1,439 kW (1,930 hp) at 9,000 m (29,530 ft). A further attempt for even higher altitude performance resulted in the turbocharged 222G and H.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Both of these new engines were earmarked for the Ta 152, resulting in two projects: the new Ta 152J-1 for medium altitudes with the Jumo 222E and a short wing span and the Ta 152K-1 high altitude fighter with the Jumo 222 G and long wings.
The engineers expected a phenomenal performance, superior to any piston engine fighter both Axis and Allies forces had fielded to date, and the aircraft would furthermore carry a potent cannon armament.

However, integrating the massive engine into the slender Ta 152 airframe resulted in a thorough redesign of the complete front section. The cowling had to be widened considerably and a new four-blade propeller was mounted in order to exploit the incremental power. The Ta 152 J's wing was based on the earlier C model but had its span extended further to 11.65 m in order cope with the aircraft's higher weight. The Ta 152 K used the former H model's high altitude wings.

Further changes were less visible, including a completely new engine mount and reinforcements of the airframe's internal structure. Due to the lack of light-weight materials, these were mostly done with steel, what raised overall weight of the aircraft considerably – the empty Ta 152J weighed 4,175 kg (9,205 lb), more than half a ton than the Fw 190D-9 with 3,490 kg (7,694 lb), and at full TOW the new aircraft almost weighed roundabout 5 tons.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Another Achilles heel of the new design turned out to be the Jumo 222's high fuel consumption and the fighter's resulting short legs. With internal fuel, range was limited to only 835 km (519 mi) instead of 2.000 km (1.242 mi) for the Ta 152H, what confined the fighter to short, local interception duties or strike attacks close to the front lines.
In order to counter this flaw and to avoid a draggy, ventral drop tank, the Ta 152J was outfitted with attachment points for a pair of so-called "Doppelreiter" (lit. "twin riders") auxiliary slipper tanks on the wings' upper surfaces.

These conformal tanks had originally been developed for the Fw 190A-7 fighter in 1943 and they offered several operational benefits. They could be easily mounted (a team of 2 or 3 engineers had them in place in less than 10 minutes), held 2x 270l of additional fuel and their aerodynamic shape did hardly impair the aircraft's performance at all. In fact, they could even be carried when the aircraft was engaging in a dogfight and did not have to be jettisoned at all. With the "Doppelreiter" tanks, the range could be extended to almost 1.500 km (900 mi), and this could be further improved by an additional standard 300 l drop tank under the fuselage.
Initial stability problems through semi-filled tanks and sloshing fuel had, since the initial tests with the Fw 190 A-7, been fixed through an internal chamber system. In this modified form, the Ta 152 J-2 entered service in late 1945.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

However, the "Doppelreiter" tanks were not a viable option for Ta 152 K's long wings and the type's turbocharged Jumo 222G remained troublesome. As a result, the K variant was held back and focus returned to the older Ta 152H for high altitude duties.
The Ta 152 J-2 remained the only production variant with the new engine, though, because the complex Jumo 222 was hard to manufacture and resources had become increasingly scarce by mid-1945. Consequentially, even though production of the Ta 152 J started in late 1945, the fighter's production numbers remained low and only a small number of aircraft were finished and eventually reached front line units in serviceable condition. Probably only 30 machines went operational, with 30 more in the production lines in a more or less uncompleted condition. But those which countered bomber raids proved to be highly effective at the Western front and over Northern Germany against medium bombers and their escort fighters coming in from Great Britain.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

General characteristics:
Crew: 1
Length: 10.29 m (33 ft 8¾ in)
Wingspan: 11.65 m (38 ft 2 in)
Height: 3.35 m (11 ft 0 in)
Wing area: 19.80 m² (212.42 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,175 kg (9,205 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,054 kg (13,346 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 6,995 kg (15,422 lb)

Powerplant:
1× Junkers Jumo 222E liquid-cooled, 24-cylinder six-row inline piston engine
with a two-stage supercharger, rated at 2,500 hp (1,850 kW) at sea level
and 1,930 hp (1,439 kW) at 9,000 m (29,530 ft), driving a four-blade propeller

Performance:
Maximum speed: 760 km/h (408 knots, 470 mph) at 6,600 m (21,655 ft)
Range: 835 km (519 mi) with internal fuel only
1.480 km (919 mi) with Doppelreiter auxiliary tanks
Service ceiling: 12,600 m (41,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 22.1 m/s (4,360 ft/min)

Armament:
2× 20 mm (0.787 in) MG 151 cannons with 250 RPG above the engine
2x 30mm (1.181 in) MK 103 in the wing roots with 150 RPG
1x ventral hardpoint for a 500 kg (1,102 lb) SC 500 bomb or a 300l drop tank
Attachment points for a pair of "Doppelreiter" 270 l conformal slipper tanks above the wings

The kit and its assembly:
This is a what-if model, but, as usual, it is rooted in reality – to be precise in the German late-war plans to mate the Ta 152(H) with the mighty Jumo 222 engine. I do not know what the official service designation would have been, but this combo would have resulted in a powerful fighter – AFAIK, German engineers' calculations indicated a performance that would have been comparable with the post-WWII F4U-5!

Creating a model of such this paper aircraft called for some serious conversion work and ended almost in a kitbashing. The starting point became a (cheap) Mistercraft Fw 190D-9 kit, and I originally planned this model to be a Fw 190 variant, but eventually this turned into a Ta 152, since it would better match up with the late war time frame.
The Mastercraft/Mistercraft kit appears to be an indigenous mold and not a re-issue of a vintage kit. At first glance the parts look pretty crisp, but the kit has some serious fit and flash issues. Another selling point is the detailed decal set, which comes in three sheets and encompasses a lot of stencils – even though the instructions where to place them are not consistent, and there are even 1:48 scale(!) markings included. But that's a Mastercraft/Mistercraft standard, anyway...

Well, the basis was sound and the kit would, in any event, be thoroughly modified. From the OOB kit, fuselage, wings and stabilizers were taken, as well as the landing gear and some other bits.

The wings were extended, in order to keep overall proportions with the new, much more massive engine cowling balanced (see below). Not an easy stunt, but I was lucky to have recently bought a set of resin Doppelreiter tanks from Airmodel which were just perfect to cover the cuts and seams on the upper wing surfaces. Inside of the wings, a styrene strip secured stability while the lower wing surface was sculpted with putty and the trailing edge of the outer wing panels was cut down by 1 mm, so that the wings' outlines match again. Some further PSR work was necessary to blend the slipper tanks into the wings, forming the upper side of the modifications, but in the end the whole thing looks quite good.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

The fuselage lost both its original engine and the tail. The latter is a donor part from a Frog Ta 152H (Revell re-boxing), but mating it with the Mistercraft Fw 190D was not easy because the fuselage shapes of the two kits are totally different! I also used the Mistercraft stabilizers because they were markedly bigger than the same parts from the Ta 152 kit!

The Jumo 222 front end was simulated with parts from the spares box, and it is a bit exaggerated. Actually, the Jumo 222 was hardly bigger (in both length and diameter) than the Fw 190D's Jumo 213 V12 engine! The cowling and the radiator for my conversion came from a Frog He 219 engine nacelle (Revell re-boxing, too) which is utterly dubious. The nacelle parts were turned upside down and integrated into the slender Fw 190 front fuselage with several layers of putty.
Inside of the cowling, a radiator plate from an Italeri Fw 190D was mounted, together with a styrene tube adapter for the new propeller. The latter was scratched, using a drop tank as spinner and single propeller blades from the Mistercraft Fw 190D, plus one donor blade from the Frog Ta 152H kit, which had to be trimmed in order to match the other blades. But with some paint, no one will tell the small differences...

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Once the bigger engine was integrated into the fuselage, the exhaust system had to be added. In real life, the Jumo 222 would have featured three clusters with two rows of four exhaust stubs, distributed evenly around the cowling. Using a drawing of this arrangement as benchmark, I started with square cuts for the cluster openings. From the back side, styrene sheet closed the gaps and offered a basis for the exhaust stubs. These were improvised with H0 scale roofing shingles – each of the 24 exhaust stubs was cut individually into shape and size and then glued into the respective openings on the upper flanks and under the engine. Finally, styrene sheet was used to create small spoilers and heat shields. The result is certainly not perfect, but comes close to what the real world arrangement would basically have looked like. In a final step, two air intakes for the two-stage supercharger, scratched from sprue material, were added to the flanks.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

The cockpit remained OOB, simple as it is, as well as the landing gear, but the canopy was modified in order to allow a presentation in open position. This meant that the OOB canopy had to be cut in two parts and that the model's spine had to be cut away, making place for a donor canopy (the late, bulged variant, IIRC from an Italeri Fw 190D-9). Internally the fuselage gap was filled with putty and the headrest had to be modified, too, but the conversion turned out to look better than expected.

As a small cosmetic improvement, the molded gun barrel stumps in the wing roots were replaced with hollow steel needles, and the outer guns were completely removed.

Painting and markings:
I wanted a typical "German", yet improvised look, as if the machine had been rushed to a service unit after minimal exterior decoration. I found a late war Fw 190F as a benchmark for my design, which basically carried a standard paint scheme of RLM 74 and 75 from above (wing surfaces and spine), but the undersides camouflage (typically in RLM 76) was completely missing. Instead, the aircraft was left in bare metal, and it carried only very simple and minimal markings.

I adapted this scheme for my build with RLM 74 and 75 for the upper wing surfaces, but the spine was painted with RLM 75 and 81 (all from Modelmaster's Authentic line). The NMF areas were painted with Steel Metallizer instead of aluminum. I went for this darker tone because I wanted a rather weathered and unpolished look. Some camouflage mottles with thinned RLM 75 and 81 were added to the flanks and the fin, too.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

The landing gear covers as well as the undersides of the Doppelreiter tanks' rear extensions were painted with RLM 76, while the undersides of the rudders on wings and stabilizers were painted with a greenish grey (similar to RAF Sky and frequently misidentified as RLM 84, a tone that never officially existed). The fin's rudder was painted in a rusty red (Humbrol 70) – again a typical German primer tone for metal replacement parts.
The cockpit interior became RLM 66 (a very dark grey, Humbrol 67), while the landing gear became RLM 02 (Revell 45) – all classic Luftwaffe tones for the intended era.

The markings were puzzled together from various sources, including the OOB sheets from the Mistercraft kit plus aftermarket material from TL Modellbau and Sky Models.

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

1:72 Focke Wulf Ta 152J-2; "Weisse Zwölf" (12+~ White) of the 10./JG26 der Deutschen Luftwaffe, piloted by Hauptmann Wernher Suhrbier; Flensburg, early 1946 (modified Mistercraft Fw 190 kit) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

While most of this build was improvised, I like the beefy and purposeful look of this über-Ta 152. It's certainly not 100% what the potential real thing would have looked like, but, after all, it's intended to be a whif model plane. The massive engine changes the look considerably, even though in a subtle way since the original silhouette remains intact. But if you place a standard Fw 190 next to it, the overall growth becomes recognizable – as if you place an early Spitfire next to one of its post-war, Griffon-powered evolutions that only share the general outlines. The shaggy look due to the NMF undersides might look strange, but many late-war builds arrived in a similar, unfinished fashionat the front line units.

Gondor · February 23, 2018, 12:52:54 PM

Nice looking build with an interesting way of producing the Jumo 222

Gondor

ysi_maniac · February 23, 2018, 09:58:49 PM

Love those tanks, wow!

PR19_Kit · February 23, 2018, 10:03:25 PM

That looks tremendous Thomas, and the Doppelreiter tanks look really great on it.

The only trouble with reading your backstories is that I can never work out where the real world ends and your Whiffing begins!

Dizzyfugu · February 23, 2018, 11:52:52 PM

Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 23, 2018, 10:03:25 PM
That looks tremendous Thomas, and the Doppelreiter tanks look really great on it.

The only trouble with reading your backstories is that I can never work out where the real world ends and your Whiffing begins!

Thank you, everyone, highly appreciated. Well, I love those blurry whifs which have some real world roots - more or less - and "smuggling" the model and its background into a history slot where its design and livery make sense is a big fun. And "outside people" frequently fall for the combo. I actually find it amusing when I get the blame for their own short-mindedness and "it's online so it must be real" attitude. Nevertheless, I try to process as many real world details as possible.

Creating a Luft '46 whif is not complicated, since there were so many innvoative if not weird designs. This Ta 152/Fw 190 with a Jumo 222 is a rather subtle one - but it looks very convincing, IMHO, despite the makeshift engine installation and other inconsistencies due to the very diffferent donor kits.

NARSES2 · February 24, 2018, 02:11:22 AM

Stunning

zenrat · February 24, 2018, 02:27:11 AM

Very good Dizz.

Dizzyfugu · February 24, 2018, 04:50:49 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on February 24, 2018, 02:11:22 AM
Stunning

OMG, thanks a lot for putting this one on the Whiffies shortlist!

Gondor · February 24, 2018, 09:16:23 AM

Something was bugging me about this build and I finally managed to work out what it was.

There was a proposed Ta 152 C-9 with the Jumo 222A-3, C or D engine proposed as a Day Fighter.

There was also the Ta 152 H-5 High-altitude presurasised fighter using the Jumo 222E engine and the simmilar H-6 as well.

Gondor

Glenn Gilbertson · February 24, 2018, 09:34:48 AM

Another beautiful, believable model - great work and backstory. Well done!

dumaniac · February 26, 2018, 03:39:46 AM

love it

well done

tahsin · March 02, 2018, 01:25:29 AM

Cool as usual but I have to say this is a lost opportunity. Say, the 4 blades of the propeller making it harder to fit nose and wingroot guns. So they go outboard, Spitfire fashion. Wait, why not fitting very big barrels? Like 45 mm recoilless ones like "forester's stick" fed from the Doppelreiter? Why not making it a bay of sorts? 210mm mortar would be so out of fashion by then, but surely a wire guided AAM , Sticking out from the rear of the tanks? Though I can't decide which way you would fix the trapeze, up or down...

The Wooksta! · February 08, 2024, 04:02:09 AM

Nice build as ever, but it's a Jumo engined D as the Ta 152 had a widened wing centre section to accommodate the fuel tanks and the fuselage side skin splays out more as a result. Plus different wheel well shape and smaller enclosing doors.

The Wooksta! · February 08, 2024, 04:07:48 AM

Quote from: tahsin on March 02, 2018, 01:25:29 AMCool as usual but I have to say this is a lost opportunity. Say, the 4 blades of the propeller making it harder to fit nose and wingroot guns. So they go outboard, Spitfire fashion. Wait, why not fitting very big barrels? Like 45 mm recoilless ones like "forester's stick" fed from the Doppelreiter? Why not making it a bay of sorts? 210mm mortar would be so out of fashion by then, but surely a wire guided AAM , Sticking out from the rear of the tanks? Though I can't decide which way you would fix the trapeze, up or down...

The Jumo engined Ta 152 drawings show cowl mounted guns, as well as wing root guns up to 30mm, whilst the standard span (A, B, C and E-1 variants) had provision to take another 20mm cannon in the outer position. Not sure if the Jumo 222 could accommodate a motorkanone. At least one of the projected B variants had no fewer than 7 cannons.

su27rules · February 08, 2024, 04:51:47 AM

Nice build and story!!