Bizjets, Executive aircraft and related

Mossie · April 11, 2021, 06:39:05 AM

Hawker Siddeley HS.140 VTOL Bizjet.

PR19_Kit · April 11, 2021, 06:45:39 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on April 11, 2021, 06:26:52 AM

I like the fact the passengers are getting out of a Roller

A Sliver Cloud 1 or II no less. Very 'Of the period'.

Mossie · April 11, 2021, 06:49:05 AM

B-57 Combat Transport for movement of SAC crews.

NARSES2 · April 12, 2021, 06:16:48 AM

B-57's neat

Mossie · April 12, 2021, 09:29:57 AM

Yeah, I picked up a B-57 a few years back at Huddersfield to do it but couldn't quite work out how to go about the front end.

NARSES2 · April 13, 2021, 06:31:16 AM

Would something like the cockpit area of Airfix's Dominie, recently re-released, be of any use as a starting point ?

Mossie · April 13, 2021, 11:40:07 AM

I've got an older kit in the stash, the main problem is the bulged roof of the Dominie. The other problem is the fairly unique shape to the windscreen.

I might revisit it and see what I can think up.

Mossie · April 13, 2021, 11:27:11 PM

Quote from: Mossie on April 13, 2021, 11:40:07 AM
I've got an older kit in the stash, the main problem is the bulged roof of the Dominie. The other problem is the fairly unique shape to the windscreen.

I might revisit it and see what I can think up.

I had a look at the Dominie again and it might provide the nose. There are some other models with a longer nose and I've found an image if the forward section of the mock up that's the same. I still have to work out the glazing though.
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/martin-vb-57-vip-transport.13348/

Dizzyfugu · April 13, 2021, 11:41:17 PM

The B-57's front end reminds me a lot of an A-6, but implanting THAT would certainly be a challenge. An F3D Skyknight could also be a suitable donor?

Mossie · April 14, 2021, 12:00:06 AM

I wondered about the Intruder and you're right, trying to match the different shapes allow for the intakes is probably going to be more difficult than scratch building. I'll look into the Skyknight, it may be a possibility.

The Dominie with a smash formed canopy might be the best option.

zenrat · April 14, 2021, 03:28:48 AM

I'm interested in the concept of Bizprops/ Executive Props. Twin engined light or medium bombers (B-26, Ju-88, Blenheim etc) converted post WW2 to carry a small number of executives in relative luxury. IRL some A-26s were so converted and so I am sure were other candidates.

Knightflyer · April 14, 2021, 04:37:27 AM

Quote from: Mossie on April 11, 2021, 06:49:05 AM
B-57 Combat Transport for movement of SAC crews.

Am I missing the obvious here? Shouldn't there be a wing spar going through the fuselage connecting the two wings???

Rick Lowe · April 14, 2021, 04:49:27 AM

Naah, enough Gorilla Glue and it'll be fine!

Hobbes · April 14, 2021, 04:55:56 AM

Quote from: Knightflyer on April 14, 2021, 04:37:27 AM
Quote from: Mossie on April 11, 2021, 06:49:05 AM
B-57 Combat Transport for movement of SAC crews.

Am I missing the obvious here? Shouldn't there be a wing spar going through the fuselage connecting the two wings???

Look at the exterior photos. The cabin occupies the front 1/3 of the wing, so the main spar will be behind the bulkhead on the aft end of the cabin.

PR19_Kit · April 14, 2021, 05:58:10 AM

Quote from: Hobbes on April 14, 2021, 04:55:56 AM

Look at the exterior photos. The cabin occupies the front 1/3 of the wing, so the main spar will be behind the bulkhead on the aft end of the cabin.

I'm not sure that it does actually. Checking pics of RAF Canberras the main spar is about level with those twin black stripes around the engines in the main pic, which would take it between the aft-most and centre windows.

Mind you, if Martin could re-engineer Canberras to have GINORMOUS wings like the RB-57D and F, just moving the spar would be a trifling problem.