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Hobbes

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
Harro, some questions about your FASS radomes. The ones you have developed are generic ones, is that correct ?  Could they be modified so they're suitable to wrap around a 12 foot wide by 8 foot high scanner dish ?  And then done in 1/72 scale ?  I'd imagine the dish end of the radome would be around 14 foot by 10 foot.

The current design is a copy of the Cammett conversion kit for the Nimrod AEW. The Cammett kit also includes sections that blend the radomes into the fuselage, I've left those off to make them more easily adaptable to other aircraft.

Scaling them up or down is fairly easy, changing the shape is more involved. I'll see what I can come up with.

Weaver

Quote from: JoeP on February 10, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
I'm going to revive this thread to post those producers I've found list a line of what if subjects.  No judgements, no ratings, no particular order, just a way to help you find them.

Algorithmic Designs - aircraft
Tiny Thingamajigs- ships
Alternate Visions - air and spacecraft
Mini and Beyond - ships
Amatuer Wargame Figures - ships
OKB-985 Design Burea - aircraft

Please add to the list!

JoeP

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kitnut617

Quote from: Hobbes on February 11, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
Harro, some questions about your FASS radomes. The ones you have developed are generic ones, is that correct ?  Could they be modified so they're suitable to wrap around a 12 foot wide by 8 foot high scanner dish ?  And then done in 1/72 scale ?  I'd imagine the dish end of the radome would be around 14 foot by 10 foot.

The current design is a copy of the Cammett conversion kit for the Nimrod AEW. The Cammett kit also includes sections that blend the radomes into the fuselage, I've left those off to make them more easily adaptable to other aircraft.

Scaling them up or down is fairly easy, changing the shape is more involved. I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers Harro,

My plan is to build this version of the BAe 844, in 1/72 scale. If I can get the radome basic shape, I can work out and develop the rest of it where it blends into the fuselage.

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kitnut617

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 11, 2020, 07:08:08 AM
Quote from: Hobbes on February 11, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
Harro, some questions about your FASS radomes. The ones you have developed are generic ones, is that correct ?  Could they be modified so they're suitable to wrap around a 12 foot wide by 8 foot high scanner dish ?  And then done in 1/72 scale ?  I'd imagine the dish end of the radome would be around 14 foot by 10 foot.

The current design is a copy of the Cammett conversion kit for the Nimrod AEW. The Cammett kit also includes sections that blend the radomes into the fuselage, I've left those off to make them more easily adaptable to other aircraft.

Scaling them up or down is fairly easy, changing the shape is more involved. I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers Harro,

My plan is to build this version of the BAe 844, in 1/72 scale. If I can get the radome basic shape, I can work out and develop the rest of it where it blends into the fuselage.



To give you a sense of scale Harro, the 1/72 A310 kit I will be using, the fuselage is 75mm diameter.
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Hobbes

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 11, 2020, 07:08:08 AM
Quote from: Hobbes on February 11, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
Harro, some questions about your FASS radomes. The ones you have developed are generic ones, is that correct ?  Could they be modified so they're suitable to wrap around a 12 foot wide by 8 foot high scanner dish ?  And then done in 1/72 scale ?  I'd imagine the dish end of the radome would be around 14 foot by 10 foot.

The current design is a copy of the Cammett conversion kit for the Nimrod AEW. The Cammett kit also includes sections that blend the radomes into the fuselage, I've left those off to make them more easily adaptable to other aircraft.

Scaling them up or down is fairly easy, changing the shape is more involved. I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers Harro,

My plan is to build this version of the BAe 844, in 1/72 scale. If I can get the radome basic shape, I can work out and develop the rest of it where it blends into the fuselage.



Going by the size of the dishes: going from 8x6 (ft) to to 12x8 is a factor 1.33. in 1/72 I get a radome that's 60 mm wide and 43.7 mm high. 14'x10' scales to 59x42 mm so that's pretty close to your estimate.

kitnut617

Quote from: Hobbes on February 16, 2020, 07:15:10 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 11, 2020, 07:08:08 AM
Quote from: Hobbes on February 11, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on February 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM
Harro, some questions about your FASS radomes. The ones you have developed are generic ones, is that correct ?  Could they be modified so they're suitable to wrap around a 12 foot wide by 8 foot high scanner dish ?  And then done in 1/72 scale ?  I'd imagine the dish end of the radome would be around 14 foot by 10 foot.

The current design is a copy of the Cammett conversion kit for the Nimrod AEW. The Cammett kit also includes sections that blend the radomes into the fuselage, I've left those off to make them more easily adaptable to other aircraft.

Scaling them up or down is fairly easy, changing the shape is more involved. I'll see what I can come up with.

Cheers Harro,

My plan is to build this version of the BAe 844, in 1/72 scale. If I can get the radome basic shape, I can work out and develop the rest of it where it blends into the fuselage.



Going by the size of the dishes: going from 8x6 (ft) to to 12x8 is a factor 1.33. in 1/72 I get a radome that's 60 mm wide and 43.7 mm high. 14'x10' scales to 59x42 mm so that's pretty close to your estimate.

Very interesting Harro, thanks. PM incoming ---
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Hobbes

I've made the FASS radome set available in 1/72.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/8EH2F8ZN8/fass-domes?optionId=149049057

As I suspected, this is a lot more expensive than the 1/144 version. Price is dominated by the volume taken up in the machine, so that's 8 times more than a 1/144 part...

I've added a cheaper material, White Natural Versatile Plastic. This is sintered, so the model becomes coarse and porous. You'll need to smooth out the surface with putty (I've used spray can filling primer for this, it works well).
I don't recommend using this material in 1/144, but the 1/72 is large enough for the PSR sessions it needs.

Next, the larger version requested by Kitnut617...

PR19_Kit

I've just bought an item from Shapeways, not an aircraft or a Whiff item, and was APPALLED at the price they levied on me for shipping!  :banghead:  :banghead:

The item cost £14.00 but the shipping was £21.00!

 Is it hand carried on the ferry from Holland to UK? I think that's just outrageous, but I can't get the thing anywhere else.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

scooter

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 12, 2024, 07:59:49 AMI've just bought an item from Shapeways, not an aircraft or a Whiff item, and was APPALLED at the price they levied on me for shipping!  :banghead:  :banghead:

The item cost £14.00 but the shipping was £21.00!

 Is it hand carried on the ferry from Holland to UK? I think that's just outrageous, but I can't get the thing anywhere else.

Three or four blokes in black wool sweaters and watchcaps on a small, but powerful, motorboat slipping across the Channel in the dark to evade HMRC :wacko:
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 12, 2024, 07:59:49 AMI've just bought an item from Shapeways, not an aircraft or a Whiff item, and was APPALLED at the price they levied on me for shipping!  :banghead:  :banghead:

The item cost £14.00 but the shipping was £21.00!

 Is it hand carried on the ferry from Holland to UK? I think that's just outrageous, but I can't get the thing anywhere else.

I try not to use them if I can because of that, or bulk order if I have to.

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Hobbes

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 12, 2024, 07:59:49 AMI've just bought an item from Shapeways, not an aircraft or a Whiff item, and was APPALLED at the price they levied on me for shipping!  :banghead:  :banghead:

The item cost £14.00 but the shipping was £21.00!

 Is it hand carried on the ferry from Holland to UK? I think that's just outrageous, but I can't get the thing anywhere else.

yeah, they've cranked up the shipping price quite a bit. My last order was € 30 in parts and € 14 in shipping.

PR19_Kit

My shipping was 1.5 times as much as the print cost!

Sheer daylight robbery!  :banghead:  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

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Don't forget the dual effects of 'Because We Can' and 'Because you Can't get it Anywhere Else'...  :banghead:  :banghead:

I got a few things a while ago, then shelved the idea of getting anything else from them permanently, because of the actual prices and the postage.  :banghead:

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Quote from: scooter on March 12, 2024, 09:29:31 AMThree or four blokes in black wool sweaters and watchcaps on a small, but powerful, motorboat slipping across the Channel in the dark to evade HMRC :wacko:

Given the postage cost I think they got caught  :rolleyes:
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