Saab/BAe Thunderbolt GR.3

[ChernayaAkula]

Boy, does that look RIGHT! 

[PR19_Kit]

Now that REALLY looks the business! 

Nice one Devilfish.

[kitnut617]

You might be interested to know, that the Viggen was actually proposed to the RAF. Three different versions with various engine power.

The Spey powered one looks just like a regular Viggen.


This image curtesy of Aero-Militaria

[Mossie]

Very interesting indeed.  The Spey version looks to be able to fit in the available space.

[Devilfish]

I was thinking Spey......

[Dizzyfugu]

Sexy! 

[Doug K]

You might be interested to know, that the Viggen was actually proposed to the RAF. Three different versions with various engine power.

The Spey powered one looks just like a regular Viggen.


This image curtesy of Aero-Militaria

Oh, 2 engines 🙂

[DogfighterZen]

Thunderbolt is looking very good indeed!

[XV107]

You might be interested to know, that the Viggen was actually proposed to the RAF. Three different versions with various engine power.

There's a short section on this in Robert Dorr's book on the Viggen (I think in the chapter called something like 'Viggens that never were'); IIRC, it suggests that there was a thought that a quid pro quo deal which'd see the RAF buying several squadrons of Viggens while the Swedes bought some Harriers in return.

[kitnut617]

You might be interested to know, that the Viggen was actually proposed to the RAF. Three different versions with various engine power.

There's a short section on this in Robert Dorr's book on the Viggen (I think in the chapter called something like 'Viggens that never were'); IIRC, it suggests that there was a thought that a quid pro quo deal which'd see the RAF buying several squadrons of Viggens while the Swedes bought some Harriers in return.

That's right, but that book came out after the article in Air-Britain's Aeromilitaria was published and revealed by Tony Buttler in 2016. The files were originally discovered by Clive Richards at Kew.

[Devilfish]

You might be interested to know, that the Viggen was actually proposed to the RAF. Three different versions with various engine power.

There's a short section on this in Robert Dorr's book on the Viggen (I think in the chapter called something like 'Viggens that never were'); IIRC, it suggests that there was a thought that a quid pro quo deal which'd see the RAF buying several squadrons of Viggens while the Swedes bought some Harriers in return.

Swedish Harrier in Splinter..........

[NARSES2]

The files were originally discovered by Clive Richards at Kew.

One wonders what else lies in those files ? I've spent time there helping a mate research his Grandfather's WWI record and with 10 days notice they had all his old regiment's war diaries ready for us in the reading room. One of the last great public services 

Only problem is that you have to know what you want to look at, although I suppose that could be a fairly broad area ?

[kitnut617]

The files were originally discovered by Clive Richards at Kew.

One wonders what else lies in those files ? I've spent time there helping a mate research his Grandfather's WWI record and with 10 days notice they had all his old regiment's war diaries ready for us in the reading room. One of the last great public services 

Only problem is that you have to know what you want to look at, although I suppose that could be a fairly broad area ?

Chris Gibson, Tony Buttler and Phil Butler have all said they stumble on things while on a search for other things. Apparently it's all there, you just have to use the right search word(s) when you go there ----

[NARSES2]

Yup it's all down to the ancient, and often missunderstood, art of indexing.

[AS.12]

The Olympus was in contention with the JT8D for the original Viggen, the Swedes chose the latter for availability and commonality reasons.  And within a decade regretted it when the Indian deal was scuppered by the US State Department.