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Militärhistorisches Museum Flugplatz Berlin-Gatow (Gatow Air Museum)

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Knightflyer

July 04, 2018, 07:28:01 AM
So for my birthday my son and I did a five day visit to Berlin-Salzburg-Munich - the plan being to see as many aircraft as possible!  ;D

So after a quick visit to Tempelhof, my son did an open-top bus tour, whilst I headed off to Gatow  ;D

It is a wonderful mixture of aircraft - the ones outside have suffered from the sun a little









more to follow if you're interested  ;D

Oh to be whiffing again :-(

JayBee

#1
July 04, 2018, 07:54:59 AM
Yes please!  :thumbsup:
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

kerick

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July 04, 2018, 09:02:53 AM
The more the merrier! :thumbsup:
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Leading Observer

#3
July 04, 2018, 10:20:37 AM
 :thumbsup:More please!
LO


Observation is the most enduring of lifes pleasures

PR19_Kit

#4
July 04, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
A wonderful place, with a weird mixture of RAF and Luftwaffe style buildings as well.  :thumbsup:

Where else could you see a Canberra and an IL-28 parked next to each other?   ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Glenn Gilbertson

#5
July 04, 2018, 03:36:53 PM
Great pics - thanks for sharing them :thumbsup:

Old Wombat

#6
July 04, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Knightflyer

#8
July 05, 2018, 12:40:50 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on July 04, 2018, 11:39:46 PM
Some more impressions from Berlin Gatow can be found here:

http://www.airliners.net/search?location=10593&display=detail

As the BBC would have to say in regards to advertising in the UK ......other sources of photographs are available!  ;D

Off for a long weekend to help my son and daughter-in-law move house now, so more in a few days time, but I shall leave you with....Gina! , soon to appearing on a website near you as the Fiat Finch FGA.Mk.1  ;D

Oh to be whiffing again :-(

Knightflyer

#9
July 09, 2018, 04:34:51 AM
So to continue...

Gatow was to put it mildly ....amazing ;D        for a 'Cold War Kid' it definitely hits the spot....FOUR MIGs anyone?




and a tale of tails?




and then, Beyond the Beagle (sounds like a good film title!  ;D) there was a group of trainer / operational conversion aircraft. Again, to agree with what Kit said, the mix is somewhat eclectic  ;)






















Oh to be whiffing again :-(

Riksbar

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July 09, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
Interesting, that Harrier seems to be a Kestrel.   Ex-BDR airframe?
"Inconceivable!"

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

PR19_Kit

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July 09, 2018, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: Riksbar on July 09, 2018, 02:51:57 PM

Interesting, that Harrier seems to be a Kestrel.   Ex-BDR airframe?


I don't think so.

Kestrels didn't have the intake blow-in doors that that pic shows, and they only had one set of underwing pylons. The Luftwaffe Kestrels all went to the USA after the Tri-Partite Squadron disbanded too.

It doesn't have the 'eyelid' nose sensor either.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Knightflyer

#13
July 10, 2018, 12:47:49 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 09, 2018, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: Riksbar on July 09, 2018, 02:51:57 PM

Interesting, that Harrier seems to be a Kestrel.   Ex-BDR airframe?


I don't think so.

Kestrels didn't have the intake blow-in doors that that pic shows, and they only had one set of underwing pylons. The Luftwaffe Kestrels all went to the USA after the Tri-Partite Squadron disbanded too.

It doesn't have the 'eyelid' nose sensor either.

I've just checked on the actual aircraft serial - and it is (and I know this is pedantically splitting hairs!) actually one of the six pre-production P.1127 (RAF) aircraft, so it is a Harrier..but not quite! From what little I skim read only the production aircraft were 'actually' called Harriers. I presume (and I'm making this up as I go along!  ;D) it didn't possibly ever serve with the RAF and has only been painted up to represent a 4 Squadron machine?
Oh to be whiffing again :-(

Nick

#14
July 11, 2018, 02:33:21 AM
I was there in 2013 and didn't spot that the Harrier might have been a P.1127 or even a Kestrel. I did see the early shape and the sign next to it says BAe (HS) Harrier GR Mk.1 which was enough for me. Unfortunately that's the large print part I can make on the photo, the rest is blurred.
It would make for an interesting piece in an evolution of Harrier development.

Looking through my photos Gatow also had an early Tornado MRCA, prototype P-01. Painted overall white with red spine. This may have been moved recently.
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