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Westland-Fairey Rotocrane HC4

Started by PR19_Kit, July 10, 2018, 03:28:28 PM

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PR19_Kit

All such aerodynamic foibles had been rendered extinct by the time the Rotocranes were built...........  ;D ;)
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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jcf

Airframe area under the rotary wing isn't as much of an issue with a tip-drive machine like the Rotodyne,
and the Z was going to have even more area under the rotor.

PR19_Kit

The Rotocrane has DOUBLE the wing area under the rotor, but it's a much bigger area rotor mind you.  ;D

Or it will be when/if I manage to build it..........
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 13, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
I reckon I'm going to have to take up Womblies idea of drilling and pinning the blades, three of them snapped while I was sanding them down.  :o

It'll have to be a VERY small drill.........  :unsure:

Or a channel (maybe two), which you can then fill with a volatile-based putty or liquid styrene once the wire is in place. ;)
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PR19_Kit

I'll experiment with one of the broken ones and see what works best.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

JayBee

Think of it as just an extended high aspect ratio wing and I am sure you will find an answer.  :thumbsup:
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: JayBee on August 14, 2018, 11:08:23 AM

Think of it as just an extended high aspect ratio wing and I am sure you will find an answer.  :thumbsup:


I did, and I didn't.....  :blink:

Try as I might I couldn't drill into the broken ends of the blades, they're just too thin and they're curved as well so the drill bit comes out of the side of the blade.  :banghead:

Current plans centre on cutting narrow slots along the blades for maybe 0.25 - 0.5 inch and supergluing fuse wire in the slot before gluing the bits together.

And then PSRing each joint of course!

This could take a while.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

What I've done in the past is cut slots with my razor saw which are wide enough to slide some styrene card in vertically using a bit more than you need and as snuggly as possible. Once it's glued good, I then trim the card top & bottom to suit. 2mm card might be good for your blades Kit.
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PR19_Kit

Hmm, that may be a better idea Robert, thanks.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

I think in woodworking termology it's called a biscuit joint. Only it would be vertical instead of horizonally
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jcf

A I find a 60° diagonal joint is best for gluing thin material end to end, it gives you more
gluing surface. Combined with Robert's spline method, it would be quite strong.




PR19_Kit

Having gathered together all the bits and pieces I reckon I'd need for this job, I find I've only got FIVE rotor blades......  :banghead: :banghead:

Where the devil has the sixth one gone?

I went back and checked the pic of them to see if I'd really made six, and I had.  :unsure:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Quote from: salt6 on August 16, 2018, 02:19:33 PM

Piano wire is stiffer than fuse wire.


Yeah, I think I'm aware of that........

But it depends on what's available in the right size at the time what I can use.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2018, 01:16:28 PM

Where the devil has the sixth one gone?


Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 14, 2018, 09:15:05 AM
I'll experiment with one of the broken ones and see what works best.

Not this one is it ?
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PR19_Kit

No, I've got 1/3 of that one, but the rest has vanished.

However I do have enough bits and pieces to probably make one complete blade, but it'll have 4 or 5 joints in it!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit