C-130 Hercules

[kitnut617]

Thanks Jon, I guess I should go back and read the whole brochure instead of skipping pages --   

[McColm]

Thanks for the idea, now I know what to build with all my spare parts!!

[Weaver]

I remember an ancient Air Force Monthly article that talked about a possible proposal of adding something to the effect of (IIRC) datalink relay capabilities into KC-135......

Something like that for the KC-135?  A role that doesn't need extra crew and associated consoles (and therefore much internal space) but not much less vital that tankers can do on the side?

Don't RAF VC-10s have such a capability? I thought they had JTIDS terminals so that they could act as datalink relays for the Tornado F.3s.

[Taiidantomcat]

makes me smile too  

[ChernayaAkula]

^ USMC Harvest Hawk Hercules? Impressive tally! 

[Hobbes]

My first thought was 'that's a lot of daisy cutters' but your explanation is more plausible 

[Taiidantomcat]

Yep its a USMC Harvest Hawk

[Jschmus]

38 Hellfire shots and only 10 Griffins?  That's a little odd, if only because the Harvest Hawk carries only 4 Hellfire and 10 Griffins per sortie.  Maybe the Hellfires are more plentiful, having been in production longer, while the Griffin is a totally new weapon.

[rickshaw]

Target, range, appropriateness of warhead and availability would determine what weapon could/would be used.   Might be that Hellfire was more appropriate and there was a directive to use it in preference 'cause the Griffin might not be as readily available.

[ytown2010]

After re-reading this a bit and reading GTX's post about exchanging 4 Allison/Rolls-Royce's for two TP400, why not four TP400s?

[Green Dragon]

Judging by all the bracing they had to add for testing just one TP400 I should think four would rip the Herc apart without some major restructuring!   

Paul Harrison

[Mossie]

On a similar line, but working back in time, how about the RAF orders a Tyne powered C-130 instead of the Belfast?  Might as well get it over with before it happens!

[Rheged]

On a similar line, but working back in time, how about the RAF orders a Tyne powered C-130 instead of the Belfast?  Might as well get it over with before it happens!

Given that the Belfast was bigger than the Hercules, how about an offset involving Allison engined Belfasts for USAF  and Tyne Hercules for RAF.    There was in real world a plan to mate  (I think) a  starlifter wing with a belfast fuselage........any road, they were starting to  call it the Georgia Bel(le)   before it all fell through.

[kitnut617]

On a similar line, but working back in time, how about the RAF orders a Tyne powered C-130 instead of the Belfast?  Might as well get it over with before it happens!

The Tynes that powered the Vickers Vanguard (4700 shp) are more in line with the C-130's (4590 shp), especially the C-130J's (4637 shp), the Tynes powering the Belfast were about a 1000 hp more powerful (5730 shp), but not as powerful as the Transalls's (6100 shp). The Airbus A400M though is in a different league altogether (11060 shp) as it can lift twice as much as a C-130. Mind you, the Tynes that powered the Canadair CL-44 (5730 shp) are just the same as the Belfasts (as an aside I was re-reading my CL-44 Swingtail book and I discovered that it was used to ship 500 lb bombs to Vietnam --- 125 at a time all the way from Hawaii. [ EDIT: that could actually be in from the Phillipines or Japan]  That's a bit better than the B-52)  


This is all if wikipedia can be believed ----

[TsrJoe]

another of my long term projects is to mate the Tyne engines from the Magna Belfast with an Italeri Hercules to make one of the proposed RAF. examples, def look subtly different methinks, especially in standard transport command scheme with blue lightning flash