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Vicker's High Flyer

Started by NARSES2, July 28, 2018, 03:13:15 AM

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TheChronicOne

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
That fuselage bow looks horrendous Chris, a nice job on straightening it.   :thumbsup:

How warm does the water need to be to work well please? Every time I try it I either get it too hot and it goes all floppy, or it's too cold and nothing happens.

Yeah, what he said, that looked like a peeling bannana peel!
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zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
...Every time I try it I either get it too hot and it goes all floppy, or it's too cold and nothing happens.

Story of my life  :o :o
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on August 09, 2018, 04:11:35 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2018, 08:02:51 AM
...Every time I try it I either get it too hot and it goes all floppy, or it's too cold and nothing happens.

Story of my life  :o :o

To much beer ?  :angel:
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NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 08, 2018, 08:02:51 AM

How warm does the water need to be to work well please? Every time I try it I either get it too hot and it goes all floppy, or it's too cold and nothing happens.

Trial and error really I suppose Kit. I start with a temperature similar to that which you'd bath a baby in and work from there. It varies depending not only on the thickness of the resin but also the make of kit. Some use different types of resin I think ?

Anyway at the risk of telling my granny how to suck eggs, it's obviously better to start off cool and work up in the temperature stakes.

We've a few chemistry bods on sight, so maybe one of those will know the actual temperature ranges ?
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NARSES2

Anyway p.s.r. is continuing on the fuselage (what is it about horizontal seams ?) and I'm nearly there, but a few more pin holes have appeared.

I've also glued the inner wing portions to the nacelles and it was noticeable that in this cooler weather the Araldite was much better behaved  ;) I've decided I'm going to glue these assemblies to the fuselage first and then when completely set I'll attach the outer wing sections. I think it's a little more sensible/pratical then assembling the whole wing and then gluing that, but we shall see.
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Steel Penguin

the best temperature thing is guess work pretty much  ( sorry)
ive had things go at tepid, and the resin for the chieftains hut had to be immersed in almost boiling, and I still had to use a lot of force on that, ( and then made certain I got it into cold tap water fast to freeze it in to position)
but I think Narses wisdom of start cool, and work hotter may be the best ( arbight longest ) way.   Its just a case of so many variables.
the things you learn, give your mind the wings to fly, and the chains to hold yourself steady
take off and nuke the site form orbit, nope, time for the real thing, CAM and gridfire, call special circumstances. 
wow, its like freefalling into the Geofront
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PR19_Kit

OK, I have a couple of resin thingies on the 'Better build it soon' list, one's an Anigrand, the 2nd's a Unicrap and the third one's a Lift Here.

How much do you bet they need a different temperature for each one?  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Start with the Anigrand kit. They tend to be more robust
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PR19_Kit

Thanks for that, tip taken on board.  :banghead:

That'll be the Bell HSL-1 'mini-Chinook' I think, it's suitably weird looking and the FAA were interested in it at one time. I love the way the engine, a radial piston engine, is almost hanging out there in the breeze!



Should be a good match with OGL's and Thorvic's recent FAA chopper builds.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Nick

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 10, 2018, 08:25:06 AM
Thanks for that, tip taken on board.  :banghead:

That'll be the Bell HSL-1 'mini-Chinook' I think, it's suitably weird looking and the FAA were interested in it at one time. I love the way the engine, a radial piston engine, is almost hanging out there in the breeze!



Should be a good match with OGL's and Thorvic's recent FAA chopper builds.  ;D

I think this appears in an early Ladybird book, wearing RN markings. Joe has a picture of it I believe.

NARSES2

I wouldn't fancy being the pilot of that, front drive shaft (or is it just a pylon, I hope) appears to go right up between his legs, almost  ;)

Looks very odd.
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NARSES2

Progress is slow, but it's progress.

The kit has some issues when it comes to lining things up in a few places and I've had to adjust the fit of the nacelles in particular so that everything is at a reasonable angle to the vertical. Lets just say the kit has some challenges.
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NARSES2

Some progress. Now have the inner wings and engine nacelles fitted and without the tail fin it has an almost Star Wars'esque "speeder" look to it or maybe in the real world it could pass as an Ekranoplan ?
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NARSES2

I now have a complete airframe. The outer wing to engine nacelles need some fettling and then paint can start.
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NARSES2

I've now got her fettled, I think, so she can have her primer coat this weekend.

I doubt very much if she will be finished in time for the G.B. close, even if I do grant an extension, but I'm not to worried as I want to get her ready for Telford so I'm not going to rush.

It's been an interesting build. It's not been difficult and if I'm honest it's a far better fit than I thought it would be and hasn't needed as much putty as I thought. However it has required me to think about it a bit and to plan the way I was going to build it. Particularly the order of construction which is not something I normally need to do. In the main this has been down to the sheer weight of some of the parts and their butt fit to other parts.

So onwards and upwards (quite appropriate in this case I think ?  :angel:)
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