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Vicker's High Flyer

Started by NARSES2, July 28, 2018, 03:13:15 AM

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 29, 2018, 11:58:47 AM
Chris has just got big hands..............  ;D ;)

Perhaps so,  but they are SKILLFUL hands.

I like this item very much; it has a flavour of Mosquito, with a slight touch of Hornet  and a gentle sprinkle of Barnes Wallis.
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I just don't like it.  The model's fine, especially given it's such an awful kit, but I just don't like the aircraft.  At all.
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Quote from: The Wooksta! on November 29, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
I just don't like it.  The model's fine, especially given it's such an awful kit, but I just don't like the aircraft.  At all.

I'm with Lee.
Good work by Chris building an ugly (and not in a good way) aircraft.
It looks like someone swapped the outer wings for those from an unrelated aircraft.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Dizzyfugu

Great build!  :thumbsup: And the paint scheme suits the aircraft well, too.

rickshaw

Looks good, Chris, despite all the problems you had building it.   :thumbsup:
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kitnut617

Good build Chris, love the scheme.  The wing shapes are kinda weird, for the one I'm building I'm using the 3-View in the book Aircraft of the Fighting Powers as a guide.
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NARSES2

Thanks gents.

I must admit I think it's quite attractive from some view points and then from others it just doesn't look right at all. Indeed it goes beyond ugly in some ways. I do like the outer wing plan as it reminds me of a high flying Spitfire's wings, but do they go with the inner wing plan ? And the engine nacelles look almost out of scale in some ways. Mind you I don't think it's helped by the bubble style canopy. They don't look right at all and can ugly up any airframe you put them on.

Still it's done and is now safely parked. I just need to think of something else to put in the high flying scheme as it's one I particularly like, along with the latter 1945 SEAC scheme. So it looks as though I'll be digging one of my CMR Spitfire kits out of the stash to put in the pending pile.

As for my hands ? I've been told they are slightly on the small side, but definitely don't show any signs of having spent a lifetime of heavy labour, which they haven't  ;)
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kitnut617

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 30, 2018, 06:26:48 AM
I just need to think of something else to put in the high flying scheme as it's one I particularly like, along with the latter 1945 SEAC scheme.

I did my Hawker P.1027 (Tempest Mk.VII) like that ---  for intercepting the early German jets

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NARSES2

I remember that mate. A lovely looker  :thumbsup:
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kitnut617

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 30, 2018, 06:26:48 AM
I must admit I think it's quite attractive from some view points and then from others it just doesn't look right at all. Indeed it goes beyond ugly in some ways. I do like the outer wing plan as it reminds me of a high flying Spitfire's wings, but do they go with the inner wing plan ? And the engine nacelles look almost out of scale in some ways.

I dug out the Aircraft of the Fighting Powers book again to see what it shows, in regards the wing planform. The inner trailing edge is dead straight but not perpendicular to the fuselage centerline. If you extend the line of the trailing edge through the nacelle, it blends in perfectly with the curved trailing edge of the outer wing. The leading edge however is where it all looks wrong, it sweeps back until it reaches the nacelle, but the leading edge of the outer wing doesn't blend in to it at all. There's hidden lines showing where the spars run, rear spar is dead straight from fuselage to wingtip. Front spar runs backwards from the fuselage to the side of the nacelle, then runs perpendicular to the fuselage center line across the nacelle, then sweeps forward to the wingtip.
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The final result is impressive! :thumbsup:
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Quote from: kitnut617 on December 01, 2018, 07:24:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 30, 2018, 06:26:48 AM
I must admit I think it's quite attractive from some view points and then from others it just doesn't look right at all. Indeed it goes beyond ugly in some ways. I do like the outer wing plan as it reminds me of a high flying Spitfire's wings, but do they go with the inner wing plan ? And the engine nacelles look almost out of scale in some ways.

I dug out the Aircraft of the Fighting Powers book again to see what it shows, in regards the wing planform. The inner trailing edge is dead straight but not perpendicular to the fuselage centerline. If you extend the line of the trailing edge through the nacelle, it blends in perfectly with the curved trailing edge of the outer wing. The leading edge however is where it all looks wrong, it sweeps back until it reaches the nacelle, but the leading edge of the outer wing doesn't blend in to it at all. There's hidden lines showing where the spars run, rear spar is dead straight from fuselage to wingtip. Front spar runs backwards from the fuselage to the side of the nacelle, then runs perpendicular to the fuselage center line across the nacelle, then sweeps forward to the wingtip.

Just making the leading edge from the roots to the nacelles perpendicular to the fuselage would be a huge improvement.  That's the problem IMO.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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kitnut617

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Quote from: zenrat on December 02, 2018, 03:16:17 AM
Quote from: kitnut617 on December 01, 2018, 07:24:50 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 30, 2018, 06:26:48 AM
I must admit I think it's quite attractive from some view points and then from others it just doesn't look right at all. Indeed it goes beyond ugly in some ways. I do like the outer wing plan as it reminds me of a high flying Spitfire's wings, but do they go with the inner wing plan ? And the engine nacelles look almost out of scale in some ways.

I dug out the Aircraft of the Fighting Powers book again to see what it shows, in regards the wing planform. The inner trailing edge is dead straight but not perpendicular to the fuselage centerline. If you extend the line of the trailing edge through the nacelle, it blends in perfectly with the curved trailing edge of the outer wing. The leading edge however is where it all looks wrong, it sweeps back until it reaches the nacelle, but the leading edge of the outer wing doesn't blend in to it at all. There's hidden lines showing where the spars run, rear spar is dead straight from fuselage to wingtip. Front spar runs backwards from the fuselage to the side of the nacelle, then runs perpendicular to the fuselage center line across the nacelle, then sweeps forward to the wingtip.

Just making the leading edge from the roots to the nacelles perpendicular to the fuselage would be a huge improvement.  That's the problem IMO.


I agree with you there Fred, and modify the curved outer leading edge too, that actually is swept forward too. Maybe I'll do that with my kit, it hasn't progressed much more than gluing the wings/nacelle together
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Weaver

Well, PITA or not, it certainly looks good Chris - well done. :thumbsup:
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