The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion

[loupgarou]

Those requiring scrutineering form a civilised queue and have your wallets ready.

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated? 

[TallEng]

-1/72 Spitfire Mk.XVI racer (thinking if calling it the "Red Devil" or the "Green Fairy (or Goblin)",depending on the color)
-1/72 F4U Corsair racer (same as above, stinnneed a name)
-1/144 Air racing diorama (im thinking a air racing pylon, with 3 smaller aircraft taking a sharp turn arround it, might be a bit complicated to make).

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649
And how about The Black pearl for the Corsairs name? Might look pretty sharp in gloss black pearlescent paint?

Regards
Keith

[PR19_Kit]

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated? 

I have some DDR Reichsmarks stashed away somewhere, smuggled out in the 70s.

Probably worth at least 2p by now though. 

[Weaver]

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly? 

[scooter]

I am preparing the wherewithal for the GB. Still have some Soles de oro from Peru, or maybe french Indochina piastres would be more appreciated? 

I have some DDR Reichsmarks stashed away somewhere, smuggled out in the 70s.

Probably worth at least 2p by now though. 

I think Confederate bank notes have finally valued up to that

[TallEng]

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly? 

Indeed my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

[Weaver]

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly? 

Indeed my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.

[TallEng]

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly? 

Indeed my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.

I've seen 386mph at 14,00ft quoted on the web, so if you cleaned it up a bit (around 6,200kgs in fighting trim)* and lost some weight... 400ish mph ought to be doable, trouble is if your mate turns up with a Spiteful say (4,200kgs in fighting trim and 494mph flat out)* with the same engine and some  cleaning up/weight loss.....

*all figures in "ish"

Regards
Keith

[Doug K]

I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Not sure I can afford all the Spitfire floats I'd need at £15 a pop for Bren Gun's Vs or IXs!

[TallEng]

How about using Revells Re-pop of Matchbox's Twotter? It comes with alternate land/float U/C and seems to be available for around €10. The floats might be a bit big, (probably easier to make smaller than to make a small float bigger?) but then if your putting a late mark on floats it would probably need bigger floats.
Spitfire Vb approx 3,000kgs
Spiteful XIV 4,200kgs (that's a very late mark Spitfire I know )

Regards
Keith

[loupgarou]

I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Not sure I can afford all the Spitfire floats I'd need at £15 a pop for Bren Gun's Vs or IXs!

You'd better upgrade to a Macchi 205, or Fiat G.55, for the italian entry.  Or even the G.59.
PM Models did a float Spit. You should be able to find it cheaper.

[kitbasher]

Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.

Given my habit of biting off far more than I can chew GB-wise I'm fighting off the temptation to have two builds going.  I know exactly what Cunning Plan #2 would be - I have the components - so perhaps I'll remove one of the components from the SMW KitSwap stash reduction pile and hold it in reserve should a second build appear feasible.

[zenrat]

I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

[Weaver]

Well the spitfire could be sponsored by Fairy Liquid, a well known (in the UK at least) green colored washing up liquid, I believe the bottle was colored green and white at one stage?
See here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fairy+liquid&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjKHozKzeAhVFiqQKHdjcA08Q_AUIEigB&biw=1024&bih=649

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Firefly? 

Indeed my thoughts exactly two seconds after I pressed Post....

Regards
Keith

The upside of a Firefly would be that you could easily give joyrides to help pay for the racing.

I'm not sure to what extent a Firefly's performance could be made competitive. The Mk.1's top speed of 316mph with a 1700hp Griffon wouldn't cut it, but Mk.4s onwards had 2300hp Griffons, which I can't find a speed figure for. There's also the issue of lightening and cleaning the airframe up, and how much difference they'd make.

I've seen 386mph at 14,00ft quoted on the web, so if you cleaned it up a bit (around 6,200kgs in fighting trim)* and lost some weight... 400ish mph ought to be doable, trouble is if your mate turns up with a Spiteful say (4,200kgs in fighting trim and 494mph flat out)* with the same engine and some  cleaning up/weight loss.....

*all figures in "ish"

Regards
Keith

Youi could always persuade a pretty girl to go and put a lipstick kiss on the Spiteful's wing: that should cost it 20mph at least...

[Weaver]

I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202

Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

1957 - Gnat. Folland/Hawker sponsor a one-make class to promote sales, with subsidised/loaned aircraft for 'promising' teams...