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The Racing and Competition G.B. General Discussion

Started by NARSES2, September 23, 2018, 05:54:35 AM

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scooter

Quote from: zenrat on October 31, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: Doug K on October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

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Reno Rocket Replica Racing (R4 for short).

A racing class for restored originals or replicas of rocket-powered aircraft such as Me 163 and the like.

Aircraft can have auxiliary turbojets for taxiing/recovery/ferrying, but they must not contribute more than 20% of the total installed thrust, and the rocket engine must fire from before the aircraft starts it's take-off run and keep firing continuously until it runs out of oxidiser.

Aircraft must make a conventional runway take-off and landing. They must not use jettisonable undercarriage components at take-off, and on landing, at least 80% of the aircraft's weight has to be supported by rubber-tired wheels. This means that Me 163 replicas need to be modified with a central recessed wheel and outrigger skids.
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NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on October 30, 2018, 03:35:28 PM
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.



Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)
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TallEng

Quote from: Doug K on October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Tropby

There are of course several other air races available if Reno or the Schneider trophy aren't quite your thing...
Kings Cup Race (UK and commonwealth pilots only I believe), Bendix trophy (Transcontinental for our American friends), Daily Mail Trans-Atlantic Air Race (to commemorate Alcock and Browns first trans-Atlantic crossing- all sorts of aircraft were used... Phantoms, a Harrier, H.S.125, Beagle Basset, VC-10 and a Piper Comanche to name but a few)
Or you could re-run the MacRobertson Tropy Air Race (AKA as the London to Melbourne Air Race) post war. anything from small purpose built racers to Airliners took part in the original (including military types) Plenty of choices and not just restricted to Reno style ex-warbirds.

Regards
Keith (might find a flimsy excuse to build my DH.91 Albatross yet) :thumbsup:
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Doug K

Quote from: zenrat on October 31, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: Doug K on October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Trophy........

Spitfire 22/ Seafire 45
Sea Fury
Bearcat
Privateer FW 190
Macchi 202


Sabre
Ouragan
Venom
MiG 15

Same float issue mind.

Yeah, I was thinking that it would be restricted to props,

Oh, another thought! Seafang on Zeke floats.......
I'm off to scour fleabay

kitbasher

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 31, 2018, 07:41:08 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on October 30, 2018, 03:35:28 PM
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.

Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)

well yes, but no, but....
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PR19_Kit

It's 0008 GMT and we're off and racing in the UK.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 31, 2018, 05:07:57 PM
It's 0008 GMT and we're off and racing in the UK.  ;D

Not if you had been on my route to work this morning.....  :-\

Gondor
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

zenrat

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 31, 2018, 07:41:08 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on October 30, 2018, 03:35:28 PM
Cunning Plan #1 was supposed to be a re-engine/re-wing job but it's looking more like a re-fuselage job!  Nevertheless should be straightforward.



Isn't that the same thing ? Or is that bloke Zen at work again ?  ;)

I know nothing.

Quote from: TallEng on October 31, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
Quote from: Doug K on October 30, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
I just can't stop thinking about the 1947 Schneider Tropby

There are of course several other air races available if Reno or the Schneider trophy aren't quite your thing...
Kings Cup Race (UK and commonwealth pilots only I believe), Bendix trophy (Transcontinental for our American friends), Daily Mail Trans-Atlantic Air Race (to commemorate Alcock and Browns first trans-Atlantic crossing- all sorts of aircraft were used... Phantoms, a Harrier, H.S.125, Beagle Basset, VC-10 and a Piper Comanche to name but a few)
Or you could re-run the MacRobertson Tropy Air Race (AKA as the London to Melbourne Air Race) post war. anything from small purpose built racers to Airliners took part in the original (including military types) Plenty of choices and not just restricted to Reno style ex-warbirds...

And then there's this race, which i'm surprised no-one has brought up...

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Right I;ve unlocked the finished builds thread. Surprised Dizzy hasn't been onto me  ;)
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NARSES2

Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London
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Rheged

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 02, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.
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Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
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jcf

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 02, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Pondering "Racing Armoured Cars", either 30's or late 40's based. Guns are allowed but each car can only carry 5 rounds ?

Might have a rummage at Telford and London

Paint rounds with all competitors using an identical gun?

Wheel hits resulting in a time penalty, engine hits causing retirement.

kitnut617

Quote from: Rheged on November 02, 2018, 12:20:57 PM

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.

The Saladin only had a 170 hp engine   :o :o :o  my Dodge Ram has nearly 400
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitnut617 on November 02, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: Rheged on November 02, 2018, 12:20:57 PM

Stretch the time frame by only a few years, and the racing Saladin becomes a possibility. With 170 brake horses of Rolls Royce B80 engine and some stripping of excess armour, one could probably get a great deal more than the officially advised 50 mph.

The Saladin only had a 170 hp engine   :o :o :o  my Dodge Ram has nearly 400


But yours hasn't got a gun turret...........  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit