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Super Stretch DC8

Started by PR19_Kit, September 27, 2018, 05:39:06 PM

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TheChronicOne

This is glorrrrrious!!!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Also, I am interested to look in my boxed DC-8 to see what engines it has, if it has the alternate ones. It's the 73 windowless jobber...   So I'm assuming it just has the "fat" engines, but, never know!! I could damn sure use an extra set of  JT3-3Bs if it happens to have them  . . ..




....... aaaand let's see here.. .. . .. . .. .    Nope!!   But, also, mine isn't a current boxing, either. It's a 2006 boxing so it isn't even relevant.  ;D  Nevermind...


I need to get ahold of one of the bagged kits you got. I think having the extra engines is very neat. Might be worth the price of admission seeing as how lots of folks just buy aftermarket decals anyway..   I've had my eye on one ever since I noticed Draw started carrying them about... ohhh... 2 or 3 months ago or so? I didn't know they came with extra set of engines though!!!   But, yes, a bit pricey..     BUT ANYWAY, So now they have the Mad Dog 80 and DC-8 bagged kits. I wonder what or if anything else will be next?
-Sprues McDuck-

PR19_Kit

I've got the Calder 8 glued up now, but the Super Stretch will have to be done in three sections, just too many joints to stay lined up as it is.

Then there's the colour scheme for the Super Stretch.

I've got LOADS of airliner decals in all sizes but I'll need a LOOOOOOOON length of stripe(s) to cover the length of the -83. Some of the wide body stuff might work if the stripes are narrow enough, and I have a lot of Thai DC10 sets, which might work. I've also got a glorious SABENA sheet in both the dark and light blue early schemes. Some of the 'all white' schemes would work with large tail flashes, like Air Seychelles, but I think that extra length needs stripes, yes?

And then there's UPS of course, if I do it as a freighter, and I wouldn't need zillions of windows then.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Why not an extended Calder scheme?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

TheChronicOne

UPS would be fantastic for the biggin!!!!   I heard at one time that they throw a fit over licensing, however, and that only just very recently have decal makers, etc. been allowed to make the decorations?? 
-Sprues McDuck-

AeroplaneDriver

Looks good!  Rotation will be a bit of a delicate affair though! 
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

Tophe

Lengthening the fuselage again and again is Something I did with pixels:
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on September 28, 2018, 06:14:39 PM

Why not an extended Calder scheme?


I like that!  ;D

I've only got one set of the Calder decals though, and my artistry is NOwhere near Mr. Calder's to carry on with the design.



Quote from: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2018, 06:28:40 PM

UPS would be fantastic for the biggin!!!!   I heard at one time that they throw a fit over licensing, however, and that only just very recently have decal makers, etc. been allowed to make the decorations??


UPS are less than helpful when it comes to us modelling their aircraft yes, and in the past their lawyers have issued writs to stop model firms using their scheme. One particular decal maker promptly produced a complete set of every UPS aircraft in 1/144 scale, but did it anonymously.  ;D

They rapidly became quite popular and were traded 'under the counter' quite extensively. I've got a complete set, but I've only ever used one of them so far, a Metro III.



I once went to take photos of a UPS DC8-73 on the ramp at Minneapolis Airport and some security guy came over and gave me tough time! I told him his jurisdiction stopped at the edge of the UPS ramp and I was the other side of that line, so he could go take a hike!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

ericr

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 28, 2018, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: zenrat on September 28, 2018, 06:14:39 PM

Why not an extended Calder scheme?


I like that!  ;D

I've only got one set of the Calder decals though, and my artistry is NOwhere near Mr. Calder's to carry on with the design.


it would be quite a challenge indeed !  ;D

PR19_Kit

Now the fuselages are all glued together, but all is not well. Not only is the styrene on the boxed and un-boxed versions different, it looks as if the moulds are different too!

It's only too obvious that one is slightly larger than the other, only by 0.5 mm maybe, but the step in the height is only too obvious in the lower pic. I can see lots of filing and sanding before the inevitable PSR session, which won't be easy due to the figure 8 shape of the fuselages.

I'll continue with the Super Stretch build in this thread and post a less detailed thread on the Calder 8 as it's an RW model.




Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

loupgarou

The Calder is so short? It looks even shorter than the original DC-8 version.
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

PR19_Kit

The -62s were short, yes, but they retained the long span higher lift wings of the -63 version because the customers wanted as long a range as possible. In Braniff's case that was for their South American routes

The original series -10s, -20s, -30s, -40s and 50s were 150 ft long, the -62s were 157 ft long and the -61s and -63s were 187 ft long.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

TheChronicOne

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Quote from: TheChronicOne on September 28, 2018, 06:28:40 PM

UPS would be fantastic for the biggin!!!!   I heard at one time that they throw a fit over licensing, however, and that only just very recently have decal makers, etc. been allowed to make the decorations??


Quote from: Kit
UPS are less than helpful when it comes to us modelling their aircraft yes, and in the past their lawyers have issued writs to stop model firms using their scheme. One particular decal maker promptly produced a complete set of every UPS aircraft in 1/144 scale, but did it anonymously.  ;D

They rapidly became quite popular and were traded 'under the counter' quite extensively. I've got a complete set, but I've only ever used one of them so far, a Metro III.



I once went to take photos of a UPS DC8-73 on the ramp at Minneapolis Airport and some security guy came over and gave me tough time! I told him his jurisdiction stopped at the edge of the UPS ramp and I was the other side of that line, so he could go take a hike!
;D ;D ;D

I wonder why they're so stingy about their stuff? I realize they don't want people trying to pretend to BE them and things of that nature but I kind of don't understand what taking that to a micro-level would accomplish. Most corps would look at something like model decals a double victory because they can sell the licensing then in turn get loads of free advertising on top of it.

I love the Metro III!!     :wub:   



EDIT:  Board filter got me...   makes more sense now.  ;D
-Sprues McDuck-

TheChronicOne

Quote from: Tophe on September 28, 2018, 11:01:19 PM
Lengthening the fuselage again and again is Something I did with pixels:

:mellow: :mellow: :mellow:
-Sprues McDuck-

PR19_Kit

Busy day here at Long Beach-on-Severn.  ;D

I've done all the main assembly on the Super Stretch and the Calder, (there's separate thread on that) I've just left off the cockpit glazing and the nose cone as both will need LOTS of noseweight. Eights are notorious tail sitters for some reason, despite that long nose on the -63.

I take back what I said about the wing joint, when I lined it up properly it went in just fine, but took some effort. However, it doesn't actually need any glue, nor do the tailplanes or the engines, I just plugged them in and they stayed there!  :o I'll probably give them a wash of MekPak when it comes to real assembly time, but they don't actually need it.

The engineering on these models is very good indeed, everything just fits, a bit like current Airfix kits, but these have been out for some years now. Only one item had any flash, a JT3D cowling that'll probably need some PSR, but otherwise it all fell together.



I've been studying my airliner decal collection at length and the wide body stuff probably won't work, unless I scan them and scale them down. The stripes are just too wide and the tail logos are much too large.



The boxed Eastern sheet will provide all the doors and detail stuff.




This is the pukka DC8 UPS sheet, but it'll need some stripe extensions from a 767 sheet, either that or a scanned and printed add-on.




This Delta might work, with a scaled down tail widget logo.




And while my SABENA sheet is for a DC10, I just love that vintage style scheme, and it's my current fave. It'll need a bit of sun tan time first though.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

AS.12

#29
The SABENA DC-10 sheet would be nicely ironic given that MDC shut-down the DC-8-60 series to prevent it undercutting the '10.  In another reality perhaps the -70 / 80 could have been their 'middle of market' option between the DC-9-80 and the DC-10. 

The only non-cheatline liveries coming to mind are the standard Braniff colorbirds. oh! And the Flying Tigers sash livery.