Me-209J (from "Jumo" or from "junk")

[ysi_maniac]

Inspired in Me-209 v5, this will be an intensive "junk" model

Aft fuselage and cockpit from Frog Bf-109F

Nose from Airfix Fw190D

Tail fin tip from Frog DH Hornet

Center and leading edge of lower half of wings from Frog Bf-109F. Trailing edge of lower half of wings will come from Airfix Yak-9D

Wheels wells has been swapped, respecting leading edge.

[Dizzyfugu]

Oh, that looks like some major surgery. But I like these gory things... 

[Tophe]

good mix!

[loupgarou]

Another contestant for the Frankenstein trophy? 

[nighthunter]

Got my interest piqued

[ysi_maniac]

Comparison with real things to give you an idea of dimensions and ratios


         length (m)   wingspan (m)   ratio len/ws
Fw-190A       9,00      10,50      0,86
Fw-190D      10,20      10,50      0,97
Me-209       9,74      10,95      0,89
Me-209J       9,86      10,80      0,91

[ysi_maniac]

This is intended to be a Defence of the Reich fighter. So, I have some questions about armament, supplied here in form of pack that include ammunition too:

Are 4 x 20 mm guns enought to destroy with high probability a Boeing bomber?
Are 4 x 30 mm guns too heavy for a ligth structure like Me.209?
What if something between like 4 x 27 mm? An ancestor of Mauser BK27?

[Rick Lowe]

Maybe a mix?
2X 20mm & 2X 30mm

[Tophe]

It will be good to finish an old build.

[Dizzyfugu]

That's looking great! My suggestion would be a pair of 30mm MK 103 in the wings (very effective, armor-piercing weapons with long range and good accuracy) plus something lighter, e .g. a pair of 13mm machine guns above the engine and maybe additionally 2x 20mm cannon in the wing roots as secondary weapons. More weapons mean more weight and lack of performance, esp. at high altitude. While more guns are possible I'd rather limit them.

[Captain Canada]

There's a neat looking piece of junk ! Great stuff.

[NARSES2]

That's looking great! My suggestion would be a pair of 30mm MK 103 in the wings (very effective, armor-piercing weapons with long range and good accuracy) plus something lighter, e .g. a pair of 13mm machine guns above the engine

That's what I'd go for, with possibly a couple of Werfer-Granate 21's.

[dumaniac]

thanks for sharing - good to see how other modellers do their what-if's

[ysi_maniac]

Was Werfer-Granate 21 effective?

[NARSES2]

Was Werfer-Granate 21 effective?

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was used in order to break the bomber formation up, which would then enable the fighters to "get in amongst them" without having to deal with the overlapping fields of fire. Once the bomber streams got fighter escorts all the way to the target and back then it's effectiveness virtually disappeared.