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Tornado retirement Theme Build general discussion.

Started by NARSES2, January 22, 2019, 07:37:45 AM

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NARSES2

Right this is the place for any general chat about the TB.

First as this is a Theme Build then there really are no rules as such, especially when compared to Group Builds. So for this one there is one rule and one guideline.

The Rule ? Your build must involve a Panavia Tornado of some kind be it a variation on a real world variant or a development of the type, that existed on paper or indeed just in your brain.

The Guideline ? As we are using the build to to commemorate the Tornado's many years of active service it would be nice to get the builds completed by it's RAF retirement date - 31/3/19, but that's only a target.

Enjoy your builds

Chris
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kerick

I'm still kicking around an idea for a Canadian F.3 in 1/72nd scale. Just seems to make more sense as an interceptor than an F-18. So, considering the other Canadian ideas in motion for this TB there seems to be a need for Canadian decals. Might I suggest; http://www.canuckmodels.com/
I haven't tried this manufacturer so any input concerning quality and customer service would be helpful.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
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Gondor

In the original thread thete was the mention of the "EF3" sudgested as an enhanced version of the unofficial entitled version of the F3. This reminded me of a Hasegawa F3 I have put aside to build as the "EF3" so I may build it as an entry for this build. The model is started but only the rear fuselage has been put together which still leaves a lot to do.

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Leading Observer

Quote from: NARSES2 on January 22, 2019, 07:37:45 AM
Right this is the place for any general chat about the TB.

First as this is a Theme Build then there really are no rules as such, especially when compared to Group Builds. So for this one there is one rule and one guideline.

The Rule ? Your build must involve a Panavia Tornado of some kind be it a variation on a real world variant or a development of the type, that existed on paper or indeed just in your brain.

The Guideline ? As we are using the build to to commemorate the Tornado's many years of active service it would be nice to get the builds completed by it's RAF retirement date - 31/3/19, but that's only a target.

Enjoy your builds

Chris


Thinking hat on ;D
LO


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Weaver

Quote from: kerick on January 22, 2019, 08:55:59 AM
I'm still kicking around an idea for a Canadian F.3 in 1/72nd scale. Just seems to make more sense as an interceptor than an F-18. So, considering the other Canadian ideas in motion for this TB there seems to be a need for Canadian decals. Might I suggest; http://www.canuckmodels.com/
I haven't tried this manufacturer so any input concerning quality and customer service would be helpful.

Bear in mind that their overseas shipping is by surface mail only, which takes 4-8 weeks.
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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: kerick on January 22, 2019, 08:55:59 AM
I'm still kicking around an idea for a Canadian F.3 in 1/72nd scale. Just seems to make more sense as an interceptor than an F-18. So, considering the other Canadian ideas in motion for this TB there seems to be a need for Canadian decals. Might I suggest; http://www.canuckmodels.com/
I haven't tried this manufacturer so any input concerning quality and customer service would be helpful.

Excellent stuff. I procured several sheets from them (e. g. for CF-101, CF-188 and CT-133), and all these were/are top notch. Thin carrier film, perfect register, good documentation.

Another good source for Canadian aftermarket sheets is Leading Edge decals.

zenrat

#7
I need to have the MRCA kit in my hands and then match the other wings up before I make the decision but I will be building either a Tornatom/Phanado or a Tornagle/Eanado...
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Hm, I have an original MRCA kit somewhere too, one that was never destined to be built once the pukka Tonka kits came out. Maybe it will now?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 23, 2019, 05:50:15 AM
Hm, I have an original MRCA kit somewhere too, one that was never destined to be built once the pukka Tonka kits came out. Maybe it will now?

You could do it as an 'accurate to the original artwork' job, which is always amusing, especially if the artwork is black and white.... :wacko:
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 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

#10
AeroplaneDriver posted a link to this article on the other thread:
http://airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2019/January%202019/Red-Air-Rising.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0dKBipy5VZEICeRg5o4AhEtSR1UEbV2PXtdweE2PfUb3Hm1FH281DHUGk

Now that got me wondering: what if one (or several) of these private adversary-air contractors bought some RAF Tornados to give the USAF a good workout against something that can credibly simulate an Su-24 or a Xian JH-7?

Draken International markings here: https://www.oldmodelsdecals.com/RNZAF-current-a-c.html (scroll down) Sheets for Skyhawks and Mb-339s in 1/48th, 1/72nd and 1/144th scales.


Also from the other thread: display teams. What if the RAF didn't amalgamate all it's teams into one in the 1960s, or subsequently revered that decision? You might see an international Tornado display team organised out of the TTTE for the purposes of helping to sell the aircraft, or you might see national teams/flights if their air forces allowed it. Endless scope for non-grey/green creativity.... :thumbsup:
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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Captain Canada

I've got a 72nd scale and a pair of 144ths somewhere in my never ending pile of half-builts. Good excuse right here !
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

kerick

Quote from: Weaver on January 26, 2019, 04:19:44 AM
AeroplaneDriver posted a link to this article on the other thread:
http://airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2019/January%202019/Red-Air-Rising.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0dKBipy5VZEICeRg5o4AhEtSR1UEbV2PXtdweE2PfUb3Hm1FH281DHUGk

Now that got me wondering: what if one (or several) of these private adversary-air contractors bought some RAF Tornados to give the USAF a good workout against something that can credibly simulate an Su-24 or a Xian JH-7?

Draken International markings here: https://www.oldmodelsdecals.com/RNZAF-current-a-c.html (scroll down) Sheets for Skyhawks and Mb-339s in 1/48th, 1/72nd and 1/144th scales.

They better move fast!
https://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2013/09/reduced-to-produce-the-end-of-the-rafs-tornado-f3-interceptor-force/

Always depressing to see aircraft the maintainers worked so hard on reduced to junk.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Weaver

Quote from: kerick on February 02, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
Quote from: Weaver on January 26, 2019, 04:19:44 AM
AeroplaneDriver posted a link to this article on the other thread:
http://airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Pages/2019/January%202019/Red-Air-Rising.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0dKBipy5VZEICeRg5o4AhEtSR1UEbV2PXtdweE2PfUb3Hm1FH281DHUGk

Now that got me wondering: what if one (or several) of these private adversary-air contractors bought some RAF Tornados to give the USAF a good workout against something that can credibly simulate an Su-24 or a Xian JH-7?

Draken International markings here: https://www.oldmodelsdecals.com/RNZAF-current-a-c.html (scroll down) Sheets for Skyhawks and Mb-339s in 1/48th, 1/72nd and 1/144th scales.

They better move fast!
https://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2013/09/reduced-to-produce-the-end-of-the-rafs-tornado-f3-interceptor-force/

Always depressing to see aircraft the maintainers worked so hard on reduced to junk.

Well the F.3s were RTP'd in order to keep the GR.4s going, which might have been brutal, but was logical enough. When the GR.4s come out of service, the same incentive won't apply, so maybe there'll be a decent 'window' in which to snag some. Also, the decision to retire then this year was announced some time ago, so there's already been a opportunity for negotiations to take place.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones