Twin-Whirlwind & Catalina…

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Further to my discovery of the He 162S kit in the topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=8234  :

On the Web, many RS pages are nice too http://www.rsmodels.cz/7209/7209.htm (He 162 glider), I had never heard of this He162S, Google found a profile of it too, at http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_...arvo-he162s.jpg
4-seater He162Z-9 glider that I am dreaming of: 2 fuselages holding tailplanes, with 3 fins (central+external)... what-if fast training of 3 pupils per teacher have been performed that way in 1945?

Here is the He162Z-9 as profile then slightly turning left. Note there are only 2 main landing gears – like on Twin-Mustangs, not 4 like on many other twin-planes.

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Thanks to Unicraft models' what-if asymmetric gallery at
http://www.geocities.com/asymmetrics/
Here is a photograph of the P-38ST twin-boom twin-engine twin-pod two-seater...:

Question: In English, do you say unbalance or imbalance, unperfect or imperfect? ^_^

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Question: In English, do you say unbalance or imbalance, unperfect or imperfect? ^_^

In English, something can be unbalanced or it can have an imbalance; I think there are some more semantic differences involved, but my memory's not the best at this hour.  The word most definitely is "imperfect", though; "unperfect" isn't one I've ever seen used.

Anyone else care to comment?

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Thanks for those explanations, dear.
Compared to you, our school teachers were Joyless Teaching Nazis , always condemning mistakes till nobody said a single word anymore ... (among the unobtrusive ones, while the talkative ones didn't care ) ... Explaining maybe why French people are the worst in the World speaking foreign language...
I smiled at home hearing an American love song entitled "she don't do me no good". Our teachers would have condemned severely: you MUST say "she doesn't", "not any"!
A classmate of my brother, that had lived in the USA during 4 years and was fluently speaking English, was condemned as "bad pupil" in the English course, not speaking like one must do: following BBC, not with those slangish awful "water, butter"
To obey those commands, that you will appreciate in the USA for sure, I have discarded below the bad USAF roundels to replace them by right colours... Is it better? As far as I am concerned, I prefer simple shapes, no matter the owners in Reality (the only-World according to JMNs , while I prefer dreams ^_^ ).

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I remember I drew the Skoda V5 in my book Virtual Mustangs from Justo Miranda's source ('Unknown! No.1' great book). If it was available as model kit, I would consider building a Zwilling...

I include it here to add this one in the collection linked from my update/download site http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/Free_EoFG_MV.htm :

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So here the start of  the P-38Y family of asymmetric push-pull Lightnings (thanking Glenn creator once again):
Two-boom P-38Y (Why?)
Single-boom P-38Yo (Why, oh single boom...)
Twin-boom P-38YoY (Why oh why??)

The left-part is the Y-1 to YoY-1, for left-handed pilots, the right-part is the Y-2 to YoY-2, for right-handed pilots...
Or that may have had a political meaning : in France left-hand-side is communist-like and right-hand-side is capitalist-like (due to the usual position in the Congress room, rather than geography looking southward with USSR/China on the left and USA on the right)... Thanks to Mikael Gorbachev preventing the WW3 of the XXth century, there has been no war between Y-1s and Y-2s, they are simply peaceful dreams.  

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And here a few other derivatives, symmetrical: P-38ZZ...
With 4 or 3 or 2 engines, push-pull or all-push or all-pull, tails-aft or tails-first...

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So when do we see the ultimate in twin-tailed dangerousness - a twin-Gee Bee?

Here is she...

I know the Gee-Bee last winning races are dated 1933, while... (what-if) in 1939, the US government was alarmed by the war occurring in Europe and wanted the American people not to be frightened, just to have fun while investing in the aviation industry (without realizing this was wisely preparing a possible future war involving USA). For that, the popular air-races of the early 1930s should have been started again, with brilliant surprising inventions.
So [thanks to Motion Models' http://www.motionmodels.com/preww2.html ] here was the Evantoff-Brothers' Gee-Bee-Zee, built as a model, 1939...

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It is well known that the Me 323 Gigant was a motorised Me 321, but who knows that the Me 321Z was an engine-less Me 323Z?  
Well, this was for the Me 321Z-1 only, as the Z-2 was very different, asymmetric, with a third door aft...

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Now since this is a W.I., what if I made this into a tandum boom OV-10 style  aircraft. (2 engines per boom)

Thanks to Eddie's topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=8446 about a twin-twin-engined A-10 model, considered in a twin-boom way, I add a 4-jet much powerful Lightning (1945 dream, I swear!), with tandem wings to support this huge rear weight...

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Well, with such a power aft, no need of propellers...
So: the P-38Jt-5 below is using 4 turbojets, the P-38Jt-4 above was using 4 ramjets (to be started in level flight). Logical...

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(to update my collection, as this topic is linked from my update/download site http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/Free_EoFG_MV.htm )

Finally, I plan to do something like this Fw 189 ABA nick-named Waterloo...
It would have in-line piston engines - or no engine, singing in rhythm being enough to fly...

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My model of Fw189ABA was providing me with two Fw 189 tails, and I decided to install one on the asymmetric cousin of the Fw 189: the Bv 141, but how to do and how to justify?
First, I reminded Glenn's Bv 141Z so nice model joining  2 Bv 141 to have double power. Then, I restored the wonderful viewpoint of the asymmetric layout into the Bv 141Z-2. Then, I restored the low drag with a push-pull layout: Bv 141F-1 using a Fw 189 tail... yes!
Alas, I am a poor modeller lacking skills and spare parts, I did not extend the wing enough but connected one boom to the pod (Bv 141F-2), and replaced the second engine by a radar (Bv 141F-3)...

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BV141Z-2 is starting to look like a BV P.163 Zwilling.   Now that Zwilling could really be interesting depending on just how it was done.

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On the TGPlanes forum, the CAPRA R.90 was presented (not from my book but the source 3-view), and a P-38 fan said this was looking like a big P-38 with booms closer.
I answered:
"I have taken note... Well, the CAPRA designer, very disappointed to receive no order, went to the States and entered the Lockheed staff. There, the P-38 team let him design a Lightning/R.90 mix, with 4 engines and propellers, 2 cockpits, close booms: P-38R-90.

As you have never seen a photograph of it, you probably have guessed this designer was fired soon. Drinking much alcohol, he was just seeing pink 4-engined counter-prop twin-boomers in the sky. Poor man. My forefather?"  
PS. for us here: the P-38R-90 drawing was made on the basis of one 1/72 kit and two 1/144 (or one 1/24 and two 1/48), this is very possible, almost...