Twin-Whirlwind & Catalina…

[Hobbes]

it kinda reminds me of the Princess Mayo thingy

I have tried to understand, willing to smile... and failed . It seems 'thingy' means 'something-unusual' or 'thingummy', no?

He's referring to the Short-Mayo project, info here, a Mistel configuration.

[Tophe]

He's referring to the Short-Mayo project, a Mistel configuration.

Oh yes, sorry not to have understood, I thought it was a new-cartoon name.
Thanks for the explanation, I should have found by myself, but age makes memories fade away...
A big file about the whole Mayo/Mistel/Zveno family is at http://aerostories.free.fr/appareils/compopara/ (in French, "suite" means "next")

[Tophe]

After the Reggiane/Fiat beauries, another gorgeous one deserving twinning was the MiG3. Here is a twin-seat single-engine project version. A long time ago, I had bought the Cap-Croix-du-Sud model kit of the MiG3, presented as the very first. It is still in my cave, I think, but alas only one, not enough for a twin. Well, I will start with the Twin-Whirlwind, it is almost sure, soon...
(Thanks to http://www.papermodels.co.il/MiG3a.jpg )

[Tophe]

another gorgeous one deserving twinning was the MiG3

The source of the MiG-3 I have used seems to be a 1/32nd kit :
http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=TU02230

Though now it seems there are many MiG-3s now: Trumpeter 1/32, Flashback 1/48, Maquette 1/72, FE Resin 1/144.
Following Lyn's advice, I may try someday to twin the 1/144th cheap little thing... Thanks Lyn.

[Tophe]

As the forefathers of our Australian friends needed a very long range Mustang, or Kangaroo CA-15, they may have consisedered using the Twin-Mustang, or Double-Kangaroo CA-55...
( thanks to http://www.airbornemagazine.com.au/images/CA15.gif )

[Tophe]

Kangaroo CA-15, or Double-Kangaroo CA-55...

Mmh, better idea:
P-51 --> CA-15 (inverting figures 5 and 1, by coincidence)
P-82 --> CA-28

or P-51 --> CA-17 & CA-18 (51 minus 34 & 33)
so P-82 --> CA-48 & CA-49

or, to read it as a double : CA-22 or CA-33
The decision would have belonged to the RAAF or Commonwealth Aircraft...  

[Tophe]

with twin booms or slightly assymetric - there's a Macchi 205 just dying two become an assymetric escort
Chris

What did you mean, Chris?
 (Christophe, searching in the forum with the search tool...)

[Tophe]

or differently asymmetric, with some P-38 look...  alas, this would require 3 kits (2 basis 1/72, 1 tail 1/48 for balance...)  

[Tophe]

on Modeling Madness
First, here's a twin-boomer for Tophe
http://modelingmadness.com/others/shows/ip...msnj2004/05.jpg

That P-38 was on Hyperscale at one point.

there was an actual Lockheed design for the Navy that was very similar to this

That Trident Sea-Lightning is excellent, utterly plausable. I agree about the wing fold though. How about reversing the thinking and doing an Allison engined Tigercat in USAAF service?

Sorry I read this very very late, and my checking is unsuccessful...
Do you mean a US-Navy radial-engined P-38? The L-24.0001 was a project of such a radial-engined Lightning (and a L-106/XP-49 version would have used R-2160s), the Navy FO-1 did exist but with Allisons (F-5B transferred from the USAAF).
Or is it something else, invented by a modeler? Alas I have not seen it. Has someone saved the picture and is it possible to see it in this picture forum?
Below is what I found in the great booklet MiniDoc #6 (American Naval Fighters), by Alain Pelletier, Editions Larivière, 1998 (it still can be ordered within the famous French magazine Le Fana de l'Aviation):

[Tophe]

Wonder if Tophe ever drew a twin-boom version based on a Wyvern (a la P-38 Lightning?)

I found that lately today... I have not drew it, ever, but I will work on this John-howland Wyvern Mk 11... I thought the Wyvern was too late for me, 1946, but the Westland Aircraft book of Putnam told me the design is dated 1944, so a cancelled twin derivative could be dated 1945.
Well, creating a double Wyvern may be rather easy with a photograph, but to be completely free and follow your pod&booms P-38 way, I should draw an oblical vectorial Wyvern from a 3-view drawing, and that means 4 hours of work, before starting... Not this week, I fear...
Thanks anyway, to enrich my dreams.

[elmayerle]

on Modeling Madness
First, here's a twin-boomer for Tophe
http://modelingmadness.com/others/shows/ip...msnj2004/05.jpg

That P-38 was on Hyperscale at one point.

there was an actual Lockheed design for the Navy that was very similar to this

That Trident Sea-Lightning is excellent, utterly plausable. I agree about the wing fold though. How about reversing the thinking and doing an Allison engined Tigercat in USAAF service?

Sorry I read this very very late, and my checking is unsuccessful...
Do you mean a US-Navy radial-engined P-38? The L-24.0001 was a project of such a radial-engined Lightning (and a L-106/XP-49 version would have used R-2160s), the Navy FO-1 did exist but with Allisons (F-5B transferred from the USAAF).
Or is it something else, invented by a modeler? Alas I have not seen it. Has someone saved the picture and is it possible to see it in this picture forum?
Below is what I found in the great booklet MiniDoc #6 (American Naval Fighters), by Alain Pelletier, Editions Larivière, 1998 (it still can be ordered within the famous French magazine Le Fana de l'Aviation):

The only other place I've seen the L-24 written up was an article by "Fatz" (real name Bill Slayton for those who read APR) in a very old issue of the IPMS/Phoenix newsletter.  He wrote a lot of articles on unbuilt Lockheed designs for a number of IMPS/USA chapter newsletters.  I've always wondered at putting a more substantial radial on that airframe (R2800's, anyone?) using the same approach that Kawasaki did in adapting a radial to teh Ki-61 airframe.

[Tophe]

Wonder if Tophe ever drew a twin-boom version based on a Wyvern (a la P-38 Lightning?)

Well, creating a double Wyvern may be rather easy with a photograph, but to be completely free and follow your pod&booms P-38 way, I should...

Done... British Wyvern Mk1, French Double-Wyvèrne or Australian Twin-Wyvern and... Canadian Twin "38-like" (in Alberta, "à la 38" in Québec).
Thanks again, JHM, my dear.

[Tophe]

Thanks to Aircav, here is the DC-3x3 Panoramic... and asymmetric for fun The happy (rich) passengers would remember such a flight.

[Joe C-P]

On the Sea Lightning, where was the tailhook? It couldn't have been on the tail, as that's too high, and certainly not the booms. On the pilot's pod, I'd have to guess?

JoeP

[Tophe]

On the Sea Lightning, where was the tailhook? It couldn't have been on the tail, as that's too high, and certainly not the booms. On the pilot's pod, I'd have to guess?
JoeP

Good question
I may look in my reference boxes of photocopies, but that is a huge work, I have simply checked my book Docavia #28 ("Les avions de combat Français" by Jean Cuny, Editions Larivière) including the description of the naval fighter SO-8000 Narval, also twin-boom with tricycle landing gear (but pusher propellers): "naval devices included (...) one hook that has never been installed on prototypes. It would have been put on a retractable support to keep enough guard for the propeller".
So... yes, this can be a long hook at the rear of the central pod, your guess was technically logical - I don't know if this is "true" too, but in our What-if universe, that is not much important. I prefer understanding wise possibilities than reading The Truth, as far as I am concerned.