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The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion

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Old Wombat

#45
June 20, 2019, 08:02:57 PM
A PBY Catalina with a 3rd engine slotted in above the fuselage?

Obviously there would need to be a widening of the centre section & a stretching of the pylon to fit it.
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TomZ

#46
June 21, 2019, 12:04:19 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 20, 2019, 08:02:57 PM
A PBY Catalina with a 3rd engine slotted in above the fuselage?
Obviously there would need to be a widening of the centre section & a stretching of the pylon to fit it.

There was this one:



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PR19_Kit

#47
June 21, 2019, 12:53:58 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 20, 2019, 04:49:41 PM

I'd have thought a Beverley assault glider wouldn't be so much 'creative' as 'destructive'.... :o ;)


Self destructive at that!  ;D ;)
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Weaver

#48
June 21, 2019, 03:38:46 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 21, 2019, 12:53:58 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 20, 2019, 04:49:41 PM

I'd have thought a Beverley assault glider wouldn't be so much 'creative' as 'destructive'.... :o ;)


Self destructive at that!  ;D ;)

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Hobbes

#49
June 21, 2019, 04:10:54 AM
I'm reading a BAe 146 bookazine at the moment. One of the 146-200s used by Aviacsa (Mexico) had a damaged engine. The engine was removed for a 3-engine ferry flight into the USA for repairs. BAe test pilot Dan Gurney flew the aircraft. He said, 'the first time I saw the aircraft it had a cardboard missile stuck on the empty pylon'  :wacko:

No photo unfortunately.

Hobbes

#50
June 21, 2019, 04:14:03 AM
Quote from: TomZ on June 20, 2019, 08:57:32 AM
You guys all go for more.
But less is also nice.

What about a B-52 with 1 big engine and 1 big prop in the nose?
Or a B747 glider?

TomZ

a small airliner with 1 RR Trent at the back of the fuselage and an annular intake...

or one that would solve a real-world problem: a Trident with 4 engines - replace the tail engine with 2 side by side...

zenrat

#51
June 21, 2019, 04:35:17 AM
Did, or do any tanks have multiple engines?
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Old Wombat

#52
June 21, 2019, 04:45:42 AM
Quote from: zenrat on June 21, 2019, 04:35:17 AM
Did, or do any tanks have multiple engines?

The AC-1 Sentinel had 3 x Cadillac V8's installed in a clover-leaf configuration feeding power to a common gearbox.
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loupgarou

#53
June 21, 2019, 05:04:45 AM
If 2 is enough, it was a quite common solution. LVT-3 had twin 148 bhp Cadillac V-8 petrol engines and transmission as the M3 - M-5  light tanks. Also the M-24 had the same solution.
Panhard loved twin engines in its military vehicles.
M-59 APC had Two GMC Model 302 six-cylinder inline petrol engines.

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rickshaw

#54
June 21, 2019, 05:42:02 AM
Quote from: loupgarou on June 21, 2019, 05:04:45 AM
If 2 is enough, it was a quite common solution. LVT-3 had twin 148 bhp Cadillac V-8 petrol engines and transmission as the M3 - M-5  light tanks. Also the M-24 had the same solution.
Panhard loved twin engines in its military vehicles.
M-59 APC had Two GMC Model 302 six-cylinder inline petrol engines.

Many vehicles had multiple engines.  Off the top of my head, for the Russians, the BTR60 had twin engines, just as did the SU-76 and the T-60 which it was developed from.  For the Germans, they were more sensible.  The British had the Matilda with twin bus engines.  The already mentioned Cloverleaf V-8 arrangement for the Sentinel which in turn was to be replaced by a twin Gypsy aeroengine arrangement.   The Americans had multiple engines in a variant of their M4 Shermans.
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jcf

#55
June 21, 2019, 09:26:34 AM Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 10:42:25 AM by joncarrfarrelly
Valentine's also had a twin setup.
Some M4 had the GM twin-diesel setup, some used the Chrysler A57 multibank.
https://oldmachinepress.com/2012/10/05/chrysler-a57-multibank-tank-engine/

perttime

#56
June 21, 2019, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: Weaver on June 20, 2019, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 20, 2019, 07:01:48 AM
But NONE of those examples quoted will do for this GB as they've already been built in the RW.

We need more creative thought, like a Beverley assault glider maybe?  :o

Can't speak for anybody else, but my point in posting was to give examples of engines added in the real world in order to inspire other people's ideas ...

Precisely. There's no separate inspiration thread but this thread will do nicely.

We have some coverage for aircraft and land vehicles. What can we do about floaty things? Does a mast on a sail ship count as an engine?   :wacko:

PR19_Kit

#57
June 21, 2019, 09:55:44 AM
Quote from: perttime on June 21, 2019, 09:36:50 AM

We have some coverage for aircraft and land vehicles. What can we do about floaty things? Does a mast on a sail ship count as an engine?   :wacko:


Good question, but I think it probably does. Whether EACH mast counts as an individual engine I'm not sure, but the mods will deliberate on the matter.

Are you thinking of an America's Cup J class schooner maybe?  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

#58
June 21, 2019, 10:46:47 AM
Boat options could be single engine, single prop converted to multi-engine, multi-prop
or vice versa, i.e. a three engined PT/MTB converted to a twin or a single, with surface
piercing drive(s) or contra-rotating props, of course.
;D

perttime

#59
June 21, 2019, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 21, 2019, 09:55:44 AM
Quote from: perttime on June 21, 2019, 09:36:50 AM

We have some coverage for aircraft and land vehicles. What can we do about floaty things? Does a mast on a sail ship count as an engine?   :wacko:


Good question, but I think it probably does. Whether EACH mast counts as an individual engine I'm not sure, but the mods will deliberate on the matter.

Are you thinking of an America's Cup J class schooner maybe?  ;D
Just a random thought that popped to my mind while typing - but I guess that was the general idea.
... Or remove engine(s) from something and add sails.
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