The Engines - More or Less GB : Discussion

[kitnut617]

I give you the Boeing B-56 Stratocastle.....

On which subject, does anyone know if there's a resin engine conversion for the B-52F's J57-P-43WBs with the bulged turbo-alternator housings?

Well, yeah there would be,  if I got off my arse and dropped this into some rubber ---   

[PR19_Kit]

Yes, those are exactly the ones I'm looking for! 

Where did they come from originally please Robert, or did you scratch them?

Hannants have some resin engines for B-52Gs, which should be the same ones as the -Fs, but the pics only show the right hand side so I can't see the bulges! 

[kitnut617]

I was going to convert one of the Revell/Monogram B-52D's I have into the B-52F. As I had an AMT B-52G I used one of the nacelles as you see. I had to modify the top of the nacelle where the pylon attaches so I could just put them on the Revell pylon. I added the bulge, filled in some of the opening the 'G' had but the 'F' didn't, then I ran out of rubber and resin. It then ended up in the projects box ---

The 'G' doesn't have the bulge though Kit so you would have to do what I've done. I should say it's in 1/72 scale --

Mind you, there are these if you can find a set.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/golden-dragon-gdpr72005-boeing-b-52f-stratofortress-resin-engine-conversion-set--182428

[PR19_Kit]

Amazingly I found I have an AMT B-52G kit in The Loft as well! It was hidden under the Monogram B-52D! 

I reckon I could give your idea a try and see what works, and I only have to do two of them of course.

It seems the Golden Dragon conversions were later split off to 'BUFF Models', but all seem to be unobtainable nowadays.

[kitnut617]

Both those outfits had the same owner Kit, seems he was a bit of a Glenn Ashley ---

[jcf]

The verdict on the Golden Dragon/BUFF stuff from various sources is that it was utter $hite,
poorly patterned, very badly moulded, overpriced and took forever to receive.

BTW, at Boeing we always referred to them as generators rather than turbo-alternators.
Ditto at Helipro on the Sikorsky S-61s and the various Bell types.

[sandiego89]

Well dang, two entries are already too close to ideas I had (one eerily very close) - prefer to have something a bit different. Seems us deviant types have similar ideas in our heads!

Back to the stash for inspiration or a trip to the hobby shop....Mrs Sandiego89 cant't fathom how my 150+ stash can't give me something for inspiration...

[zenrat]

Well dang, two entries are already too close to ideas I had (one eerily very close) - prefer to have something a bit different. Seems us deviant types have similar ideas in our heads!

Back to the stash for inspiration or a trip to the hobby shop....Mrs Sandiego89 cant't fathom how my 150+ stash can't give me something for inspiration...

Loathe as I am to suggest anything that might stop you buying more kits you could post you stash list here and let us choose you something to build...

[NARSES2]

Had a couple of ideas whilst away, both will be RAF 1940's (there's a surprise), one will lose an engine, one will gain one. Just need to find the kits now. E-Bay here I come

[Medjoe]

Did a quick photomanip of a Ju 88A trimotor today, to my knowledge there was no proposed configuration of the sort, I think the Germans *mostly* left the trimotor schtick to the Italians. By cutting so much of the extensive glasshouse in the front, it would likely lose a significant amount of forward visibility/defense/space for the bomb sights. Aesthetics-wise the side view looks a bit wonky, if only because the Jumo piston engine and its radiator are so long. 

Also more weight dedicated to an extra engine, new firewall, pumps and whatnot, while keeping the same fuel capacity would hinder significantly its range at the price of a modest increase in cruise speed, perhaps? And to top that the need to reposition the wing to better fit the shift of its CofG forward. A possible purpose that came to my mind would be some sort of dedicated high speed torpedo bomber, skimming just above the waterline and striking fear in the Allied warships and convoys...

For a closer visual familiarity to something like the SM.79, perhaps the Ju 88R with its BMW 801 radials would be a closer candidate.

In any case, I only have one Ju 88 in the stash and it's destined to another fate, so I'll gladly throw forth this monstrosity to contribute to our collective imagination.

[NARSES2]

 

[kitnut617]

Did a quick photomanip of a Ju 88A trimotor today, to my knowledge there was no proposed configuration of the sort, I think the Germans left the trimotor schtick to the Italians.

Umm, Ju.52, Ju.252 -----   

[jcf]

The Italians were stuck with the tri-motor layout because of their radial engines
had a lower power output compared to other countries/manufacturers.

Three 801 would be unlikely because of weight considerations, it would dramatically
decrease the 88's load size, perhaps three Bramo 323?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bramo_323
The Fw 200 C-3 and on used the 323.

[Medjoe]

Umm, Ju.52, Ju.252 -----   

Duly noted and amended. I am now reminded that the Ju 252 was not a fever dream and the nose engine is one of the most oddly proportioned with the rest of the fuselage... I was counting on having that erased from memory.

[jcf]

Twin R-3350 powered B-24 based concepts for the USAAC and USN. Like some other projects
they came to nothing because of the demand for the R-3350 on other programs, primarily the
B-29.


LB-29


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