Bombers repurposed into transports/airliners

[PR19_Kit]

The problem with using a Shackleton fuselage as an airliner is the same one that blighted the Lancastrian. With a low or mid-wing the spar runs right across the floor, and it's at knee height, and big with it!

That's the reason the York had a high wing, the spar then ran overhead and out of tripping height.

Of course, if you mount a Shackleton wing high on a lengthened York fuselage you get an Avro Leeds....... 

[tigercat]

Very nice 

How about Shackleton wing on a Sunderland ?

[Rheged]

Semyon AleKseyev's bureau OKB-01 designed  the type 150, which was the unsuccessful competitor  to the Tu-16 Badger.   An East German called Baade took the design and concocted the VEB 152 passenger aircraft out of it.     It was a failure, showing the difficulties of military to civil conversion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKB-1_150


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baade_152

[PR19_Kit]

How about Shackleton wing on a Sunderland ?

Yes, how ABOUT Shackleton wings on a Sunderland?

[rickshaw]

How about Shackleton wing on a Sunderland ?

Yes, how ABOUT Shackleton wings on a Sunderland?

Where would the wing floats go, though?

[McColm]

How about Shackleton wing on a Sunderland ?

Yes, how ABOUT Shackleton wings on a Sunderland?

Where would the wing floats go, though?

The landing gear on the Shackleton isn't as long as the one on the Short Stirling, so you can still use the Sunderland floats on the shoulder mounted wings. However if you were to lower the wings so that the landing gear was down,  the Sunderland floats could be stashed in the wingtips similar to the Catalan sea plane.
An interesting idea, two more kits to buy in 2021!

[Hobbes]

There was talk of converting the Tu-114 bomber into a commercial airliner, it would look like a smaller version of the Boeing SST.

I think you've got your numbers crossed there.
The Tu-114 is the world's largest turboprop airliner (and derived from the Tu-95 Bear)
the Tu-144 is the Russian SST, and was a civilian development (no military versions).

[McColm]

The problem with using a Shackleton fuselage as an airliner is the same one that blighted the Lancastrian. With a low or mid-wing the spar runs right across the floor, and it's at knee height, and big with it!

That's the reason the York had a high wing, the spar then ran overhead and out of tripping height.

Of course, if you mount a Shackleton wing high on a lengthened York fuselage you get an Avro Leeds....... 

I've had a go at moving the Shackleton wings to a higher position,  this works best on the MR.2, although the ground clearance is greatly reduced. Try using the AeroClub Shackleton AEW.2 conversion set as the bomb bay is shallower than the Airfix kit or try the Revell AEW.2.
I also had a go at converting the Mach2 Avro York into a bomber by lowering the wings from the Revell kit,  I'll try both ideas next year 'future builds for 2021'.

[McColm]

There was talk of converting the Tu-114 bomber into a commercial airliner, it would look like a smaller version of the Boeing SST.

I think you've got your numbers crossed there.
The Tu-114 is the world's largest turboprop airliner (and derived from the Tu-95 Bear)
the Tu-144 is the Russian SST, and was a civilian development (no military versions).

Oops I meant to say that the Russians were considering using the Tu-160 to convert it into a SST.  I have the Airfix BAC Concorde and the Rockwell B-1B in the stash,  I'm not experienced enough to do the kitbash in 1/72 scale but I might try this in 1/144 scale first.

[zenrat]

...The Tu-114 is the world's largest turboprop airliner (and derived from the Tu-95 Bear)...

And also almost certainly the worlds noisiest.

[jcf]

Manchester wing mounted on a shortened York fuselage, late series rear-swept exhaust Hercules
engines, as used on the Bristol freighter. Transport with a swing-tail for straight-in loading.

[McColm]

Apart from the XC-99 there was several designs for the Convair B-36 Peacemaker to become a troop transporter or freighter with a loading ramp at the rear. The angle of the loading ramp was very steep. A swing tail might be a better option.

[ysi_maniac]

OKB EF-140 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKB-1_140 converted to airliner

[Mossie]

How about a Martin B-10 wing on a new fuselage as a DC-2 competitor and a Maryland/ Baltimore wing for a DC-3 alternative?

[ysi_maniac]

Passenger versions of H.P. Victor, militar and civil. 

Note that this would be an almost global range liner.