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In The Navy GB - The Rules - GB EXTENDED UNTIL MIDNIGHT 14th JUNE.

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rheged on February 03, 2020, 09:30:05 AM

I hope you are NOT thinking of SHORTENING the Harrier wings!!


As if!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

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Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kerick on February 03, 2020, 03:25:52 PM

Raised platform on the LCAC?


That'd be physically possible, but it'd have to be maybe 10-12 ft high in 1:1 scale, which may be a tad unstable.

My cunning plan is somewhat more radical and will need a very inventive backstory.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Old Wombat

Quote from: Rheged on February 03, 2020, 09:30:05 AM
I hope you are NOT thinking of SHORTENING the Harrier wings!!

Do that & it becomes the Chinese "Diving Peregrine".
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Dizzyfugu

Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2020, 08:58:36 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2020, 03:26:12 PM

I may yet get to build one of my LCACs then.

Perhaps with a USMC Harrier aboard?  ;)


I've just tried it, and huge though the LCAC is, it's not wide enough for the Harrier's wings.  :banghead:

Either I build the little known folding wing version of the Harrier  ;D or I need a cunning plan.  ;D

And I've actually just come up with one.................  ;)

Maybe use two LCACs and mate them with a common landing deck?  ;)

zenrat

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2020, 04:33:04 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 03, 2020, 02:36:14 AM

........ and even some aircraft carriers helicopter destroyers.


Do they exist JUST to destroy helicopters then?  ;D

I think they exist just to get round post war prohibitions on Japan operating aircraft carriers* (which they are obviously not).
The big one is rumoured to become the home of Japans F35s.


*Because Aircraft Carriers are offensive weapons and Japan only operates in a defensive role.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

rickshaw

Carriers can also be used defensively...   :banghead:
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Tophe

Quote from: sandiego89 on January 31, 2020, 11:36:42 AM
I know there are a few builders that prefer not to do military builds. Personally I vote no and keeping it to strictly naval service otherwise it would run into a generic maritime build. Folks could do hospital ships, survey ships, SAR equipment etc if they prefer a non combatant role.
Could also add civilian assets pressed into Naval Service into the examples. I know Kit needs an excuse to get his enormous Atlantic Conveyor idea built! 
I had a problem to understand the subject as "the navy" is translated in my French as "la marine" and there is a civilian "marine marchande" (cargo ships). But Google Translate, with "navy" alone, not "the navy" gives the definition: "the branch of a nation's armed services that conducts military operations at sea." So I think I will not participate to this GB, for militarists only.
Sorry.
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

Old Wombat

Don't run off, yet, Tophe. I'm sure we discussed/mentioned Merchant Navy somewhere during our pre-rule discussions... Let me confer with my esteemed partners! :thumbsup:
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NARSES2

Quote from: Old Wombat on February 04, 2020, 05:45:50 AM
Don't run off, yet, Tophe. I'm sure we discussed/mentioned Merchant Navy somewhere during our pre-rule discussions... Let me confer with my esteemed partners! :thumbsup:

Indeed we did discuss it, I just didn't translate that discussion into the rules  :banghead:

Apologies, bear with us a bit Tophe.

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Rheged

Navies do a fair amount of humanitarian work.  Would a Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessel optimised for post hurricane/tsunami/earthquake relief count?  If so, Tophe has room to manoeuvre. I suppose that one might even manage an asymmetric version of RV Triton.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RV_Triton
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Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
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Old Wombat

Quote from: Rheged on February 04, 2020, 06:45:08 AM
Navies do a fair amount of humanitarian work.  Would a Royal Fleet Auxiliary vessel optimised for post hurricane/tsunami/earthquake relief count?

Yes.
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on February 04, 2020, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 03, 2020, 08:58:36 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 02, 2020, 03:26:12 PM

I may yet get to build one of my LCACs then.

Perhaps with a USMC Harrier aboard?  ;)


I've just tried it, and huge though the LCAC is, it's not wide enough for the Harrier's wings.  :banghead:

Either I build the little known folding wing version of the Harrier  ;D or I need a cunning plan.  ;D

And I've actually just come up with one.................  ;)

Maybe use two LCACs and mate them with a common landing deck?  ;)


I like the idea, Tophe would too (a twin boom LCAC..........) but I'm not sure I have the space, nor the World Bank account that I'd need to fund it.  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitnut617

Quote from: zenrat on February 03, 2020, 02:36:14 AM
Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force counts as a navy.  One which IRL has its own aircraft and even some aircraft carriers helicopter destroyers.

Hmm, so does Australia   ;) ;) ;)
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kitbasher

Quote from: kitnut617 on February 04, 2020, 09:24:11 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 03, 2020, 02:36:14 AM
Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force counts as a navy.  One which IRL has its own aircraft and even some aircraft carriers helicopter destroyers.

Hmm, so does Australia   ;) ;) ;)

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