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Telford 2020 suggestions

Started by Freightdog862, May 20, 2020, 10:04:08 AM

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The FROG FD2 was very clever, and well ahead of its time when it first came out too.

Over time I've done 2-3 of them, in various RW colour schemes (the purple WG777 did NOT go well :() and even tried to convert one into a BAC221, but that was doomed to failure, so I've got a vacform for that.
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McColm

1/72 C-97 FASS radomes set,
F.O.D. covers for the Airfix Avro Vulcan,  Valiant  and Victor.

Gondor

I have a sensible sudgestion,

1/72 P.1154 Naval version seeing that you did the RAF single seater some time ago.

Gondor
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Rolead

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Colin, you have done various missiles in the past, how about boxing them up into one set ?

Also some wing tip tanks for the Hunter.

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Robert

Thorvic

Hawker P1117 Sea Hunter conversion
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The Wooksta!

The early Firestreak Hunter proposal  - there's a photo of WB202 (an F1 I think) with four.  You've got the missiles and the leading edge.  All you need is the small bore tailpipe and some decals.  Simples!

Sidewinder Hunters - pack of four missiles plus pylons (the missiles were in the original release F6 but that's been deleted)
Centreline bomb carriers for Singapore hunters

Hunter GA11 - small bore jetpipe, Harley light nosecone, airfield arrestor hook.  There's no point replacing the gun port bit with resin when anyone with a modicum of intelligence - pause for sarcastic response - can use a bit of filler.

Rerelease of the Blue Dolphin missiles
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Mossie

Suggestions for a few simple-ish sets on a similar theme.  AST.396 for a CAS aircraft has now been covered in some detail in the 2nd Edition of BSP 2 & Chris Gibson's Typhoon to Typhoon.  There were a whole host of unique designs, however several of the proposals were for modifications to existing types:

Tornado, ADV airframe with the radome replaced by a rounded nose containing a FLIR turret and other optronics.  Set would need a new nose & LRMTS fairing.  You could add fillets for the Skyflash fairings and IDS fuselage pylons if you wanted to be complete.

Harrier HS.1184-1.  GR.3 with LRTMS nose, overwing sidewinders, front and rear RWR, T.4 style tail boom.

Buccaneer HS.1197/Blackburn P.157.  LRTMS fairing, shortened weapons bay with Aden cannon occupying the front portion, double bogie undercarriage.

The Tornado in particular would be quite a head turner.



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Weaver

BAE 'big wing' conversions:

Jaguar: the bigger wing with a swept trailing edge and tip pylons offered as a Jaguar upgrade.

Harrier: the bigger all-metal wing with overwing Sidewinder pylons offered as an alternative to the McDonnell-Douglas wing for the AV-8B.*



*The BAe wing offered less range-increase (mixture of aerodynamics & fuel volume) than the McDD wing, but it's advantages were no speed loss (McDD wing cost 50kts) and it could be retrofitted to existing GR.3/FRS.1 airframes. Because the program was US-led and the USMC primarily wanted an efficient bomb-truck, we got the McDD wing.
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Weaver

Following on from Lee's suggestion, alternative Sidewinder rails.

Don't make the missiles (too many different sub-types used), just make pylons and rails for applications not covered in mainstream injection kits.

Off the top of my head:

Hunter existing outer wing pylons (only needs a rail)
Hunter new inboard pylon + rail (Oman, Singapore)
Hunter new mid-wing pylon + rail (Rhodesia)

Harrier overwing pylon + rail (featured on several proposals)

Lightning Y-pylons + rails for two Sidewinders/side, either on existing weapons pack or the various proposed alternative weapons packs.
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Freightdog862

Thank you for the suggestions everyone. Certainly some workable idea's there.

Just got a copy of Typhoon to Typhoon so might get some more inspiration from within its pages.

Colin 

chrisonord

Quote from: Weaver on May 22, 2020, 12:42:32 PM
BAE 'big wing' conversions:

Jaguar: the bigger wing with a swept trailing edge and tip pylons offered as a Jaguar upgrade.

Harrier: the bigger all-metal wing with overwing Sidewinder pylons offered as an alternative to the McDonnell-Douglas wing for the AV-8B.*



*The BAe wing offered less range-increase (mixture of aerodynamics & fuel volume) than the McDD wing, but it's advantages were no speed loss (McDD wing cost 50kts) and it could be retrofitted to existing GR.3/FRS.1 airframes. Because the program was US-led and the USMC primarily wanted an efficient bomb-truck, we got the McDD wing.
The bigger Jaguar wing would be good as I fancy  building  mine  as a royal navy  version .add on Lightning stuff is always  favourite  too as well as hunter stuff.
Chris
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McColm

An extension nose wheel leg for the Eurofighter and a arrestor hook.
Oh if you could come up with a resin improved T-tail for the Matchbox/Revell HP Victor that would be great as well!

Mossie

Quote from: Freightdog862 on May 23, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
Just got a copy of Typhoon to Typhoon so might get some more inspiration from within its pages.

Colin

Have a look at the P.101 Blitz, would it be worth doing it as a fuselage & tail as a major conversion to the Airfix JP3?

If whole kits are not viable, would this kind of thing be doable?  I'm thinking things on the line of Joe's Hawker Huntsman that was very popular.
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perttime

Quote from: McColm on May 24, 2020, 12:50:48 AM
An extension nose wheel leg for the Eurofighter and a arrestor hook.
...
Is anybody currently offering a Sea Gripen?

Rolead

As we have a very nice Buccaneer kit how about the proposed air defence variant. Did it have plug to stretch it ?

Regards
Robert