Prototypes G.B. General Discussion

[zenrat]

Handley Page Victor SP.

I had an epiphany last night while cleaning my teeth and came up with a reason why I will be doing what I will be doing (other then aesthetics).  I'll just say NB-36H...

[PR19_Kit]

I'll just say NB-36H...

That must have been a BIG thought! 

[kitnut617]

I had an epiphany last night while cleaning my teeth and came up with a reason why I will be doing what I will be doing (other then aesthetics).  I'll just say NB-36H...

In 1/72     On Shapeways, Click2Detail has a conversion to do that.

[zenrat]

I had an epiphany last night while cleaning my teeth and came up with a reason why I will be doing what I will be doing (other then aesthetics).  I'll just say NB-36H...

In 1/72     On Shapeways, Click2Detail has a conversion to do that.

For a Victor?


No,  I know what you meant.  Thanks.   

[Scotaidh]

Well, pooh.    I was planning to do an English Electric P6,. but Dizzy has already beaten me to it.  When I googled "English Electric P6 aircraft" all I see is pictures of his creation - and a whole lotta Lightnings, because apparently Google thinks their users don't know what they want.   

To be fair, other search engines do the same thing ... 

I may just go ahead with it anyway - I'm sure I'll have different donor kits, and he built his as an 'in service' aircraft, not a prototype.

[Tophe]

Maybe I could draw a XP-85 Parasite Mustang Jet fighter, as a mix between P-51 and XF-85. If I colour it in overall bright orange, does that count as USAAF prototype?

[jcf]

Maybe I could draw a XP-85 Parasite Mustang Jet fighter, as a mix between P-51 and XF-85. If I colour it in overall bright orange, does that count as USAAF prototype?

[Tophe]

Thanks Mod!

[Weaver]

Aren't some of the Matchbox kits based on the prototypes rather than the operational aircraft . The A10 springs to mind

Correct (M61 instead of BRRRRRT on the nose, stabilizers, paint schemes). Also Mbox Alpha Jet is based on the mock-up (even German A version has the blunt E nose), F-14 is a cross between the prototypes and earliest production examples (notably it is the only Tomcat kit with the early style wing glove box).

Other prototypes of later series produced machines out of the box are Airfix/Hasegawa/Frog Saab Viggen (the readily apparent feature is the distinctive lack of the area-ruled "hump" that even the Matchbox kit had), Hasegawa's earliest F-15 (with straight wingtips and even prototype markings!) and whatever the MiG-23 is pretending to be, Revell's original F-16 (YF-16), JAS Gripen (mockup with wtfhuge wing fold panel lines never even found on any of the prototypes or even the actual mockup and MASSIVE rivets), JF90/EFA Eurofighter (again a mockup, shape differences aside it has wingtips extending through the ECM pods and missing two weapon pylons and cannon port), and MiG-29. There's probably many more...

Wasn't there an early F-16 kit (Revell? Monogram?) That had the short nose and small tail fins? Seem to remember it came in a prototype scheme and had a removable engine on a trolley.

[Weaver]

Handley Page Victor SP.

I had an epiphany last night while cleaning my teeth and came up with a reason why I will be doing what I will be doing (other then aesthetics).  I'll just say NB-36H...

Does that mean you have six million teeth flying in close formation?

[Weaver]

Well, pooh.    I was planning to do an English Electric P6,. but Dizzy has already beaten me to it.  When I googled "English Electric P6 aircraft" all I see is pictures of his creation - and a whole lotta Lightnings, because apparently Google thinks their users don't know what they want.   

To be fair, other search engines do the same thing ... 

I may just go ahead with it anyway - I'm sure I'll have different donor kits, and he built his as an 'in service' aircraft, not a prototype.

It's not looking for the picture, it's looking for the words close to it. Hard to find any discussion of the P6 without the Lightning being mentioned somewhere very close by.

[zenrat]

Aren't some of the Matchbox kits based on the prototypes rather than the operational aircraft . The A10 springs to mind

Correct (M61 instead of BRRRRRT on the nose, stabilizers, paint schemes). Also Mbox Alpha Jet is based on the mock-up (even German A version has the blunt E nose), F-14 is a cross between the prototypes and earliest production examples (notably it is the only Tomcat kit with the early style wing glove box).

Other prototypes of later series produced machines out of the box are Airfix/Hasegawa/Frog Saab Viggen (the readily apparent feature is the distinctive lack of the area-ruled "hump" that even the Matchbox kit had), Hasegawa's earliest F-15 (with straight wingtips and even prototype markings!) and whatever the MiG-23 is pretending to be, Revell's original F-16 (YF-16), JAS Gripen (mockup with wtfhuge wing fold panel lines never even found on any of the prototypes or even the actual mockup and MASSIVE rivets), JF90/EFA Eurofighter (again a mockup, shape differences aside it has wingtips extending through the ECM pods and missing two weapon pylons and cannon port), and MiG-29. There's probably many more...

Wasn't there an early F-16 kit (Revell? Monogram?) That had the short nose and small tail fins? Seem to remember it came in a prototype scheme and had a removable engine on a trolley.

The first Hasegawa 1/72 F-16s came in the prototype scheme and had, I think, the  corresponding parts.  No removable engine though.
General Dynamics F-16A Blue B21 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

The first Airfix Tornado came in the red and white MRCA scheme.  I don't know enough about the aircraft though to say if the model represented a prototype.

[McColm]

What about aircraft that have appeared in films such as the " SkyFleet S570" prototype which was a Boeing 747 with a pair of B-52 engines under each wing?

[Dizzyfugu]

The first Airfix Tornado came in the red and white MRCA scheme.  I don't know enough about the aircraft though to say if the model represented a prototype.

Yes, it does. IIRC it should be the 3rd prototype (red and white livery, mixed national markings, built in Germany; there was also a prototype built in Italy with the same scheme, but it carried tri-national roundels and a diffrerent fin flash). Other Tornado prototype carried different liveries, though, and there were a lot of them. Lots of whiffing potential here... 

[Dizzyfugu]

BTW, my second "mystery" build. Can materialized - I was able to procure a suitable donor kit for ingredients. I'll just reveal that it will be a kitbashing, and that it involves stealth.