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Avro Type 690 Leeds - the true story

Started by PR19_Kit, July 02, 2020, 07:33:58 AM

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PR19_Kit

I'm running out of steam, what with four models on the go, two for the current GB and two 'normal' ones, plus one GB build still to start. :(

I've never had to sand a model so much as this Avro Leeds, what with the ZILLIONS of rivets on the Shackleton bits, plus the over size raised panel lines on the York vacform, and I haven't even STARTED on sanding down the inner edges  of the vacform fuselages halves yet, I'm feeling devoid of further will.

I may start on the third GB build as that's NOTHING like anything else I'm doing, as it'll be a car............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

buzzbomb

I for one, am looking forward to seeing this one eventuate. :mellow:

McColm

I wish I still had my work bench,  I could probably cut a piece of balsa wood and shape it to your fuselage template. Then add the wings,  engines,  tail fins and landing gear. Yes there would be a fair bit of sanding but the end result would be satisfying.

Old Wombat

Don't burn yourself out, Kit! :o

If you need to, cull your builds, especially where you're trying to fit too many into any one GB. We'll understand! :thumbsup:


(Well, most of us will, maybe not Dizzy. ;))
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Well, I just work on one project at a time...  :rolleyes: Helps to focus.

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Quote from: Dizzyfugu on July 06, 2020, 12:18:27 AM
Well, I just work on one project at a time...  :rolleyes: Helps to focus.

Me, too.  Some years ago I fell into the trap of trying to do several models "at once", the idea being that whilst that one was glue-setting, I could paint this one, and when that was paint-drying I could do the decals on the other one ... and now I have several models sitting, unfinished, that I really don't like much anymore and have no real desire to finish.  And, why did I do this?  To increase my "through-put" - horrible word, worse idea! 

I do this for fun, so I build at a pace that suits me.  I may not have the production rate of others, but I'm happy with what I do - and isn't that the point of it all? 

Sorry - didn't meant to pontificate.  <embarrassed>

Other than picking one on which to focus, I don't really have any suggestions, Kit.  I dislike PSR, myself - one reason I only do one model at a time is to reduce the amount of sanding.  :)
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zenrat

Nah, the more the merrier.  You just have to be Ok with blowing out deadlines.

;)

You do have nearly three months to finish your builds KIt.  No need to rush.


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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

As I'm still 'marooned' away from home I spend a lot of time ordering stuff to work with, and they all take time to deliver of course.

I started two of the builds at the same time, the PR19 prototype and the Leeds, and I already had two going as well, the Gnat CC2 and the Defiant IV, and ALL of those needed paints that I haven't brought with me.  :banghead:

So all of them have come to a temporary halt, but I've just come up with some ideas on the car prototype............  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Back on the Leeds again today.

One wing's been sawn down and filed to take the Aeroclub aileron, but has yet to be de-rivetted. There may not be enough wet-and-dry paper in the county for that job yet............... :(

Seen here alongside the non-sawn wing for comparison. I've already glued the #2 engine in position as I needed to sort out the main landing gear. As the Leeds was a tail wheel aircraft and the MR3 is a nosewheel type there'll need to be some mods made to the inside of the #2 and #3 cowlings to take the tailwheel main gear stuff.




I've cut down the port fin to make it less 'chubby looking' and I think it looks a lot better now, certainly more suited to the 'long-thin' look of the Leeds. The slimmed down fin on the right and the standard item on the left.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

I should have a spare set of Airfix main undercarriage if you want Kit?

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Thanks for the offer Alastair, but I have some white metal versions for a Shackleton MR2 en route. Standard Lanc ones are too short by quite a bit as the MR3 nacelles are very deep.

I've just de-rivetted the port wing, and it took over 30 mins and pretty wrecked one my sanding blocks! That FROG styrene is the consistency of reinforced concrete!

What saddens me a bit is some poor toolmaker back in the 60s lovingly cut or drilled every one of those 10500 odd rivets (I counted some and averaged them, yes really.........  :banghead:) and I've just cast all of his work into oblivion.:(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!

Really needs the Aeroclub Shackleton u/c which is almost a drop in fit.

I can sort out some spare Airfix Shackleton doors which are vastly superior to ye olde Frog ones and I'll throw in some Lincoln wheels if I can find them.
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PR19_Kit

The SAC set, which is what I have on order, is rumoured to do exactly that, I hope..................

I've never thought of plastic modelling being an 'exercise', but after all that cardio-vascular sanding I'm knackered!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!

I think the SAC set is intended for either the Airfix of Revell Shattipusses.  I'll bung the Aeroclub one in a bag and get it in the post tomorrow. That one *definitely* fits the Frog kit.
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 06, 2020, 06:08:49 AM
The SAC set, which is what I have on order, is rumoured to do exactly that, I hope..................


In my experience their sets are very good, but do tend to just drop into the kit they are designed for. Not sure what they'll do when faced with a different kit. But then your an engineer Kit  ;) :thumbsup:
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