The 'Secret' prototype.....

[PR19_Kit]

I've been painting the rear suspension and engine of the secret prototype, using lots of different metallic shades, some of which are from Citadel's wargame paints series.

They're lovely paints, lots of various metallic shades, just what I need for this job, but I wish they wouldn't keep changing the names of the colours every year or so!  It makes it very difficult to match a shade with one that I've already used, and whoever thought up the names in the first place?  'Gunmetal' I can live with, that's just what it looks like, but 'Ironbreaker' and 'Rune Steel'?

My brain hurts............

[NARSES2]

but I wish they wouldn't keep changing the names of the colours every year or so!  It makes it very difficult to match a shade with one that I've already used, and whoever thought up the names in the first place?  'Gunmetal' I can live with, that's just what it looks like, but 'Ironbreaker' and 'Rune Steel'?

My brain hurts............

I have exactly the same problem Kit 

[Steel Penguin]

the Citadel paints change name when they get a different manufacturer,  it means that they can have colour changes and not worry,  the names are actually quite clever, as they can be trademarked / copy write ( whichever it is) as a already existing name or generic name isn't defendable.   certain names will be due to the paint being the main one for a troop or army type, the Space Wolf grey, being the main colour of the armour that the Space Wolf chapter of space marines wear is an easy one.

[PR19_Kit]

At LAST some progress on the main assembly. The rear suspension's now in place, all painted up properly. It just needs the addition of a couple of trailing arm traction bars and that end will be done.

The engine's painted up now, but it'll need its exhaust manifolds added before I can glue it in place as they're pretty complex.

[zenrat]

Have you used the front and rear suspension from the engine donor or is it from a different kit?

[PR19_Kit]

The rear suspension is from the same donor kit as the engine, but with lots of stuff from the third donor kit added to it. The third donor kit supplied all the front suspension and some of the underframe mods too.

Have you worked them out yet? 

[zenrat]

Well, you've told me what the body and engine are from.  Don't know about the front suspension and under frame though.  I can't see it too clearly.

[PR19_Kit]

Here's a blow-up of the first pic I posted on this thread, a tad blurred but you might figure out what it's from. This is before I cut and trimmed it to fit the main underframe though.

[NARSES2]

the Citadel paints change name when they get a different manufacturer,  it means that they can have colour changes and not worry,  the names are actually quite clever, as they can be trademarked / copy write ( whichever it is) as a already existing name or generic name isn't defendable.   

Fair enough, but could they keep the shop staff up to date with changes. I've had a couple of conversations when the assistant had no idea what the colour I wanted was currently being called 

[PR19_Kit]

A rather fundamental problem has arisen with the Secret Prototype, the engine won't fit.............. 

It did originally, even the engine mounts from the third donor kit fitted the engine from the second donor kit, but when I fitted the exhausts last night they foul the forward underframe, but I have a cunning plan. 

With a 60 degree V12 engine, one with outward exhausts, the exhaust ports inevitably point downwards and so do the manifolds, but if I swap the RH and LH manifolds and invert them, they'll point upwards and therefore won't foul the underframe! 

All I have to do is get them off, and I superglued them in place...................... 

[zenrat]

A rather fundamental problem has arisen with the Secret Prototype, the engine won't fit...(T)he exhausts...foul the forward underframe...

Yep, been there.  Annoying isn't it.
IME when swapping model car engines, 9 times out of 10 the engines original exhausts are going to hit something.

[Hobbes]

A rather fundamental problem has arisen with the Secret Prototype, the engine won't fit.............. 

It did originally, even the engine mounts from the third donor kit fitted the engine from the second donor kit, but when I fitted the exhausts last night they foul the forward underframe, but I have a cunning plan. 

With a 60 degree V12 engine, one with outward exhausts, the exhaust ports inevitably point downwards and so do the manifolds, but if I swap the RH and LH manifolds and invert them, they'll point upwards and therefore won't foul the underframe! 

All I have to do is get them off, and I superglued them in place...................... 

Stick the parts in the freezer for a while. That tends to make superglue brittle.

In a pinch, you could make new manifolds. A simple manifold design like this one is pretty easy to make from some round stock:

[PR19_Kit]

In a pinch, you could make new manifolds. A simple manifold design like this one is pretty easy to make from some round stock:

I may have to do that, yes.

With the manifolds in the upswept mode they come very close to the twin air-cleaners and will be the very devil to hook up to the main exhaust pipes and silencers etc.

Thanks for the freezer tip, it worked a treat. 

[PR19_Kit]

Great idea that Harro, thanks so much. 

There was no way the original manifolds would fit in the engine bay upside down, large though it is, so I sorted out some styrene rod and cut a log manifold for the LH side, and it works a treat. I'll need to do some rod bending to make it match with the rest of the car, but I have to do that anyway as the original underframe only has one silencer and pipe.

[jcf]

I like this configuration.