Mirage F.1

Started by Zen, January 22, 2005, 02:21:52 PM

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Ian the Kiwi Herder

Quote from: Dork the kit slayer on December 20, 2008, 07:03:03 AM
Tidy your desk??? :cheers:

Ooooohhh saucer of milk, table four :wub:

You got home yet ?

Ian
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....it's time to tidy the workbench"

Confuscious (maybe)

Archibald

Quote from: GTX on December 19, 2008, 10:13:04 AM
Given the Mirage F.1 was a direct competitor to the F-16, what if the Mirage F1M-53 (Mirage F.1 with SNECMA M-53 engine) had beat the F-16 in the "deal of the century" and been selected by Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, and Norway and then gone on to be selected by other F-16 users.  We could then see F.1s in the colours of:


  • Belgium,
  • Denmark,
  • The Netherlands,
  • Norway, and
  • Any other F-16 users

Also, I wonder if the F.1 would have continued to be developed further in lieu of the Mirage 2000?

BTW, this was the Mirage F1-53:



Will look to produce a line drawing shortly.

Regards,

Greg

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,8955.0/highlight,f1em.html

My entry to this sympathetic board, three years ago!

The F1 M53 stand no chance against the F-16.

Better to give the thing to the french navy, to replace the Crusaders. Kill the Super Etendard in the same motion.

Then give the F1 M53  to the French air force, instead of the Mirage 2000.

Sold the Crusaders, Jaguars, Atar - Mirage F1 and the french 400*Mirage III to foreign customers.


Thanks to massive savings (the F1 M53 is cheap) you can have the Mirage 4000 in the late 70's...

Without the french navy to force the EFA into a lighter naval fighter, France stay in the talks in 1985. Maybe the 4000 is the basis of a join (Typhoon + Rafale) european fighter...
King Arthur: Can we come up and have a look?
French Soldier: Of course not. You're English types.
King Arthur: What are you then?
French Soldier: I'm French. Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?

Well regardless I would rather take my chance out there on the ocean, that to stay here and die on this poo-hole island spending the rest of my life talking to a gosh darn VOLLEYBALL.

GTX

Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on December 20, 2008, 06:39:40 AM
Would anybody like to guess what I've got planned for the VERY near future  :rolleyes:











Ian

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Ed S

Quote from: Ian the Hunter-Gatherer on December 20, 2008, 06:39:40 AM
Would anybody like to guess what I've got planned for the VERY near future  :rolleyes:











Ian

A new bookshelf and a bigger desk?

;D

Ed
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GTX

See what happens when those silly people at Dassault get things back-the-front:



regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

ElectrikBlue

Quote from: GTX on May 02, 2009, 07:38:28 PM
See what happens when those silly people at Dassault get things back-the-front...
More silly things from people at Dassault! :thumbsup:

Sauragnmon

Greg, I bet your mutant wings-at-the-tail version, with a big powerful engine, would be rather scarily optimized for higher speeds, she's got area ruling in spades.
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GTX

Quote from: Sauragnmon on May 03, 2009, 07:05:54 AM
Greg, I bet your mutant wings-at-the-tail version, with a big powerful engine, would be rather scarily optimized for higher speeds, she's got area ruling in spades.

Well, you know some people are always worried about having a nice 'hourglass' figure on their lasses...

Regards,

Greg
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

ElectrikBlue

#53
A 3D preview of Greg's Mirage F.1 and another silly variant inspired by the XFV-12!

pyro-manic

That canard-F1 has just got to be put into plastic! :wub:
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PanzerWulff

Quote from: GTX on May 02, 2009, 07:38:28 PM
See what happens when those silly people at Dassault get things back-the-front:



regards,

Greg
I'm in the middle of doing something similar with the F-16 LOL
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PR19_Kit

Bumped 'cos I have a question about the Mirage F1.

What's the bulge just forward of the nose gear bay on some F1s? It's not there on Spanish ones and is also missing on some French ones too. The part in the Heller kit, it's an optional fit, looks like a strike camera fairing but it doesn't have a title that I can see anywhere.

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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

Weaver

#57
IIRC, it's a doppler radar aerial: some F1s have a nav/attack system and some don't.

EDIT:  some F1s have a laser rangefinder in a similar position, but I still think the fairing in the pic is doppler.
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rickshaw

IIRC it is a doppler altimeter, Weaver.  I believe only Mirage F1CT carry it.
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Zero-Sen

Looks like a CR machine of the BR11 recce squadron. Must be a small camera.