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When Vulcans nuked the USA - twice...

Started by Weaver, September 19, 2020, 11:53:41 AM

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Quote from: Weaver on September 20, 2020, 04:05:13 PM

We'd all better hope it's a dummy, because they've also got the arming keys and instructions on how to use them there. You know those tubular keys that were all the rage on cycle/motorbike locks until someone proved you could pick them with a BiC pen barrel? Yep, same keys...

Never heard of that, but there again the guys who developed the thing would have used Parkers and Sheaffers, nothing so "urban" as a BIC  ;)
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Quote from: Weaver on September 20, 2020, 03:24:10 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on September 19, 2020, 09:01:42 PM
I wonder how many times the USAF and USN 'nuked' the UK?
;) ;D

Probably lots of times, but it wouldn't have meant as much because after some point in the late '50s/early '60s, nobody was seriously trying to defend the whole of UK airspace against all attacks. All the RAF was supposed to do was defend the V-bomber bases long enough for them to get off the ground and on their way to Russia. With the UK being so small and so densely packed, less than a dozen decent-sized nukes dropped literally anywhere is game over for most of the population within the next year. A defence would have to be near 100% perfect to be worth having at all, and no defence in history has ever come close to that standard. Certainly nothing the UK could afford in 1960.

True, but I was thinking of late '40s - mid '50s scenarios.

Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on September 21, 2020, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: Weaver on September 20, 2020, 03:24:10 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on September 19, 2020, 09:01:42 PM
I wonder how many times the USAF and USN 'nuked' the UK?
;) ;D

Probably lots of times, but it wouldn't have meant as much because after some point in the late '50s/early '60s, nobody was seriously trying to defend the whole of UK airspace against all attacks. All the RAF was supposed to do was defend the V-bomber bases long enough for them to get off the ground and on their way to Russia. With the UK being so small and so densely packed, less than a dozen decent-sized nukes dropped literally anywhere is game over for most of the population within the next year. A defence would have to be near 100% perfect to be worth having at all, and no defence in history has ever come close to that standard. Certainly nothing the UK could afford in 1960.

True, but I was thinking of late '40s - mid '50s scenarios.

I have half a memory of there being an air defence exercise in the 1950s (early?) in which the RAF did badly against bomber attacks, which were part RAF, part USAAF.
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