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Update for "The end of Forked Ghosts"

Started by Tophe, January 29, 2005, 10:03:56 AM

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QuoteI may try a different one, still with just 2 tail booms... In 10 minutes maybe. Thanks Aircav, thanks Corel :)
As this topic here is devoted to seriousness, somehow, I have posted our dream DC-33P on
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=4626
Great idea, thanks Aircav... :)  
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#16
For the Appendix "twin-boom projects dated 1946-48 maybe designed before" are the additional Burnelli Patents (or Designs?) 150,926 filed in 1946 + 160,841 of 1948 : see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/089.html & http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/091.html + http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/092.html & http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/100.html .
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QuoteHere is the list of twin-boom 1939-45 discoveries from http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/full :
Next: Gardenhire Patent 133,777 of 1941 - see http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/062.html .

Somehow, it looks like a flying car, with a removable pod. But the Patent title is just "airplane" and there are 3 wheels (the Hall Flying Car had 3 wheels too, though). So my conclusion is: "what-if this was a flying car?" simply. Let us dream... :)
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Tophe

Next : Theodoropulos Patent 127,412 filed in 1939. Burnelli-like, somehow.
See at  http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/055.html .
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Improved : Theodoropulos Patent 127,413 pursuit-version, twin-engine twin-fin instead of 6-engined 3-fin. A Burnelli-like twin-boom fighter, great ! (the Lockheed L-203-7 of 1948 was the only one I knew before)
See at  http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/061.html .
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Next: Van Zelm Patent 138,217 filed in 1942. See at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/070.html .
Maybe this is simply a cargo plane with rear doors opening up and down, with the originality of a low wing (like the Belgian Renard R-45, and the inventor name here sounds Flamish too, or Dutch), but... what if this would have been an airliner with a panoramic view aft and below? Twin-boomers like I love...
Besides, this layout made me dream of a simple 4-engined single-pod P-38, missing in my collection. I post this one on the fantasy topic.
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Tophe

On October 16th 1943, were filed 3 Hall designs.
I will present first the 143,731 – a simple kind of P-38, see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/085.html
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#22
Then, let us see the Hall 143,729 – a kind of Vampire with a P-38 tail, see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/079.html
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#23
Last: Hall  143,732 – a kind of Bowlus-Burnelli XCG-16 with a P-38 tail, see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/080.html &  http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/084.html .
So, when I will be judge for heresy, with my what-if friends, in the Hall  of Justice, I will say to the judge, defending Nev, a XB-49 with a P-38 tail ( http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...ic=736&hl=xb-49 ) was not criminal, this might have been Hall-designed, then not ordered, simply... No crime in dreaming, your honour.
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Tophe

QuoteNext: Van Zelm Patent 138,217 filed in 1942. See at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/070.html .
Maybe this is simply a cargo plane with rear doors
The Van Zelm Patent 138,218 filed in 1943 seems to confirm the cargo hypothesis, with a 2-enfined high wing version, like a simple C-82. See at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/071.html .
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Tophe

Very weird twin-boomer : Whitworth 44,879 of 1944, see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/082.html . .
Usually, the twin-boom layout is justified by a central pusher-propeller, ahead of the tail (SAAB J.21 etc) or else : by a central rear-facing post (Northrop XP-61 etc). Here : there is a central pusher-propeller and though there is rear-facing post, on the tailplane ! Well, this has been built before on the Caproni Ca.51, but this was a huge triplane.

Ozell Whitworth, inventor here, seems to have no relation wuth Joseph Whitworth, of Armstrong-Whitworth fame in the universe of twin-boomers (AW.66, 650, 660...).
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#26
A tiny derivative of the Supper-Clipper, with floats turned into booms: Loudy 115,854 of 1939. So cute... See the pretty oblical view at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/117.html
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#27
Without relation to the famous twin-boomer Benett Airtruk of New Zealand, the Benett 145,417 of 1945 was a very special twin-boomer, with central booms, not lateral. Moreover, the propeller was rotating around the upper boom. Great!!! :wub:
(see the source at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/147.html with an oblical view)
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#28
And now the greatest Harrington 143,313 of 1945 - see at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/078.html
The title is "Combination Airplane and Submarine "!!! Yes, 2 subs as booms for an airplane, simply, so wonderful! I had never imagined such booms, yes even me...
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Tophe

The Rogers Design 113,880 of 1939 (from front up, from rear below) is titled Airship and is maybe a twin-boomer, I am not sure. As there are rotors, the aircraft could be heavier than air, at least when loaded. Difficult to know. As well, the distance between "wing" and "tailplane" seems very short. An oblical view could be drawn in different ways, from such a little basis. Maybe this is more an "almost-twin-boomer" than a "genuine-twin-boomer".
See at http://www.adventurelounge.com/aircraft/fu...design/047.html
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