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S AMERICAN MARKINGS

Started by NARSES2, February 02, 2005, 03:25:54 AM

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Does anyone know a source for Central/South American national markings used on aircraft circa 1930/1950 ?

I have the markings circa 1920 from a re-print of Janes and can get the current markings from various sources. Just not sure if they would have stayed the same over time.

Chris
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lancer

On the same subject, can anyone tell me where I can get South American decals from??
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QuoteOn the same subject, can anyone tell me where I can get South American decals from??
Lance, try...

Aztec

FCM

I think Carpena do some too...  :huh:  

Radish

Lancer, if you choose carefully, some other roundels, etc., can be used.....

Low-viz Chile aircraft have just a small white (or black) 5-pointed star on the rudder. If white, there might be a blue rudder too.

Peru....red/white/red roundels like Turkey, with red/white/red rudder stripes/fin flash.

Paraguay....red/white/blue roundels like the French

El Salvador.....blue/white/blue roundels like Argentina or Greece

As Mikey says, the AZTEC and FCM rages are good, with Aztec having many good sheets featuring different nations.
Try Hannants.

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Joe at Flightdecs is also a good source of decals; he has links to most decal companies so you can see all the different markings.  I've bought Aerocalcas Argentinas, Aztec, Albatros & FCM decals; they all work pretty well.  I've built a Bolivian T-33, Mexican T-33, Peruvian Mirage 5P4, Uruguayan A-37, Brazilian Mirage IIIEBR and Argentinian low-viz Finger (IAI Nesher); using decals from all these manufacturers.  

I'll look & see if I have any partial decal sheets that I won't finish using up.    

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Saw this on ARC yesterday:

1/48 & 1/72 A-37 Dragonfly

These are sets of decals for various models of the A-37.  The set includes decals for all of the countries that operated them, including Chile, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Peru and Uruguay.  That's nine different Latin countries represented.  Outside of this build, they also have decals for the USAF, South Vietnam and Thailand.

I don't know about the quality of the decals, but it looks like they'd be worth looking into.
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Radish

Albatross are excellent decals.....a friend has built several MiG-21s and Mirage F.1s from them.

But, if Texas of the Confederate Staes rule Central America, you can invent your own markings.

What about the Puerto Rican ANG?? Does that count??

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QuoteSaw this on ARC yesterday:

1/48 & 1/72 A-37 Dragonfly

These are sets of decals for various models of the A-37.  The set includes decals for all of the countries that operated them, including Chile, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Peru and Uruguay.  That's nine different Latin countries represented.  Outside of this build, they also have decals for the USAF, South Vietnam and Thailand.

I don't know about the quality of the decals, but it looks like they'd be worth looking into.
I have those sheets in 1/72 and they're FECKING SWEET!!!  I have at least 5 Academy A-37s in the stash to build for that sheet.  If you want something off of it, let me know.  I'm sure there's something that you'll want that I won't be using.


NARSES2

Ok while Googling for an answer came across this soon to published book on the subject by Hikoki - bit late for this contest but still looks good

Chris


Latin American Air Wars & Aircraft 1912-1960
Seventy years of conflict in the skies of Central and South America
by Dan Hagedorn
The aircraft were colourful and their crews were often courageous – but virtually unknown beyond the South American Continent. Throughout the first 70 years of practical flight in Latin America, obscure designs carried the colours and markings of many nationalities and in this book, many photographs of such aircraft are seen for the first time. Accompanied by extraordinary drawings and a detailed text, this volume offers a remarkable historical bonanza for students of aeronautical history and aircraft modellers who are craving something 'new' and 'adventurous'.

Following more than 15 years of research, the author traces the use of aircraft in Latin America from the frail Wright Model Bs through the ensuing border skirmishes, revolutions and full-scale warfare to the final aerial engagements between piston-engined fighters. The so-called 'Leticia Incident', the 'Revolt of the Lieutenants' and the 'Soccer War' are all described.
The aircraft enthusiast will discover an astonishing range of aircraft depicted in photographs and information including the Argentine North American SNJs and Gloster Meteors, Bolivian Curtiss Hawk IIs, Curtiss-Wright 14R Ospreys, Brazilian Waco CTOs, Chilean Curtiss Falcons, Colombian Bellanca 77-140s, Costa Rican North American F-51D Mustangs, Cuban Vought Corsairs and exile force Douglas B-26s, Dominican Republic deHavilland Vampires, Guatemala Republic F-47N Thunderbolts, Honduras Stinson Model 'O' Seniors, from the Mexican Martin 'Sonora' to the Vought V-99M Corsair, Nicaragua Douglas C-47s, Paraguayan Fiat C.R.20s and Potez 25A-2s, Peruvian Douglas O-38Ps, Uruguayian Waco JHDs and the Venezuelan North American F-86F and deHavilland Venom.
This study can be regarded as the most comprehensive reference book for years to come and will be informative and fascinating reading for all aviation enthusiasts.

The Author:

Dan Hagedorn spent 27 years in the United States Armed Forces and in that time served several tours in Latin America and has visited all but one of the traditional Latin American nations.
He currently works within the Research and Reference Section of the Archives Division of the National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution. In 1997 he was appointed as Adjunct Curator for Latin American Aviation for the National Air and Space Museum.

He was honoured with the Willis Nye Award by the American Aviation Historical Society for his history of US aviation in defence of the Panama Canal and in 1996, was named an Unsung Hero of the Smithsonian Institution in connection with the 150th Anniversary of the Institution.
He is the author of nine books dealing with various aspects of aviation history and has written more than 200 journal articles for the world's leading aviation publications.

Hardback, c 320 pp, c 300 rare b/w and colour photos and colour artwork
ISBN 1 902109 44 9
RRP £39.95
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TomZ

I have a book on international aircraft markings which gives drawings of the markings used together with the period of use sorted by country.

If you want to know what kind of markings are correct for a certain period for some countries, just give me a yell and I can make some scans.


Regards,


Tom
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Mike Wren

QuoteOk while Googling for an answer came across this soon to published book on the subject by Hikoki - bit late for this contest but still looks good
Chris, that book is the prize for this competition  ;)  

Radish

Got some other stuff by Dan Hagerdorn and they're great.....South American Mustangs, P-47s, etc.. superb stuff, as well as an Air Britain title on Central american Air Forces by him. Fantastic.
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NARSES2

QuoteI have a book on international aircraft markings which gives drawings of the markings used together with the period of use sorted by country.

If you want to know what kind of markings are correct for a certain period for some countries, just give me a yell and I can make some scans.


Regards,


Tom
Thanks Tom - I'll bear that in mind if my searching proves fruitless

Chris
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NARSES2

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QuoteOk while Googling for an answer came across this soon to published book on the subject by Hikoki - bit late for this contest but still looks good
Chris, that book is the prize for this competition  ;)
Memory like a sieve Mike (one of those senior citizen moments) I remembered that just after I'd switched my PC off ! I'll definately be buying it, on the basis I don't win it

Chris
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