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Boeing 747 Ultra Wide Body

Started by TomZ, April 18, 2021, 10:30:08 AM

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Quote from: frank2056 on April 19, 2021, 11:46:45 AM
Quote from: TomZ on April 19, 2021, 09:34:08 AM

- There will be no extra doors. Extra crew will be employed during embarking and disembarking to hurry people along

TomZ

with heavy, steel tipped boots, no doubt.

and white gloves, like the Subway Pushers at the Tokyo Underground Railways who cram people into the coaches.  These are the guys who flunk out of Sumo school ... ;)

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/08/subway-pushers-of-japan.html
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Quote from: frank2056 on April 19, 2021, 11:46:45 AM
Quote from: TomZ on April 19, 2021, 09:34:08 AM

- There will be no extra doors. Extra crew will be employed during embarking and disembarking to hurry people along

TomZ

with heavy, steel tipped boots, no doubt.

I was thinking either Catle Prods or Klingon Pain Sticks!  :wacko:

Gondor
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

frank2056

Quote from: Gondor on April 19, 2021, 01:24:58 PM
I was thinking either Catle Prods or Klingon Pain Sticks!  :wacko:

Gondor

Required for the obligatory idiot who decides that they can cram their giant bag into the already full overhead compartment, thereby preventing anyone else getting past them.

poru48

Just imagine the number of extra overhead bins though!    🤪

kerick

Quote from: frank2056 on April 19, 2021, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: Gondor on April 19, 2021, 01:24:58 PM
I was thinking either Catle Prods or Klingon Pain Sticks!  :wacko:

Gondor

Required for the obligatory idiot who decides that they can cram their giant bag into the already full overhead compartment, thereby preventing anyone else getting past them.

Don't get me started on those idiots. All so they don't have to go through baggage claim. I've actually had bags dropped on my head from these fools.
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buzzbomb

Meh ! Make it a freighter.
There is probably more RPK (Revenue per Kilometre) out of Freight than pax anyway.
Freight goes where it is put without a single "Don't you Know Who I am ?" type passenger.

Still the concept is intriguing, something that , more than likely,  Boeing were looking at during the heady Airbus A380 days, whilst these days they are probably wiping their forehead and going "Whew ! That was close. Lucky we did not do THAT !"

Tophe

Quote from: buzzbomb on April 19, 2021, 03:27:48 PM
Make it a freighter.
Lucky we did not do THAT !"
Boeing built a cargo enlarged 747 see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747-400_Large_Cargo_Freighter but enlarging in height, enlarging in width remained to be done, and I am happy it is done here completing the what-if family (not to be flown and sold, but for fun in shelves) ;D
[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]

zenrat

A Wiiiiiiiiiiiiide Body Jumbo would make for an ideal flying hospital...
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: TomZ on April 19, 2021, 09:34:08 AM

- There will be three aisles in the main fuselage. The seating being 4 + 4 + 4 + 4


Until Ryan Air get their hands on one  ;)
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jcf

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Quote from: NARSES2 on April 20, 2021, 06:57:01 AM
Quote from: TomZ on April 19, 2021, 09:34:08 AM

- There will be three aisles in the main fuselage. The seating being 4 + 4 + 4 + 4


Until Ryan Air get their hands on one  ;)

The 747-400D(Domestic) built for the Japanese market had a seating capacity of up to 660 in
single-class all Economy configuration, 568 in a two-class configuration.

All economy 624 seat 747-400D LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accommodations).


Tom's UWB should be able to add a few more. ;D

jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 19, 2021, 10:33:06 AM
:( :(

They could have done what they optioned for the 777, have folding wings a la carrier borne aircraft.

Folding tips are standard fit on the 777-X (777-8/9/10X) because the new wing is of an increased
span. They're deployed manually by the flight crew, but they fold automatically.

http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/777Xbrochure.pdf

PR19_Kit

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 22, 2021, 12:14:44 PM

Folding tips are standard fit on the 777-X (777-8/9/10X) because the new wing is of an increased
span. They're deployed manually by the flight crew, but they fold automatically.

http://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/777Xbrochure.pdf


Very interesting Jon, thanks for the .pdf link.  :thumbsup:

I can see various 1/144 add-on manufacturers already carving masters for folding tips.  ;D

I can't help feel that Boeing aren't REALLY serious about it though, or they'd have folded the wings just outboard of the engines.  ;D

Mind you, they'd have to have power spreading then. Do the crew have to walk out on the wing and push the tips down, or do they just press a button in the cockpit?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
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kerick

The wingtip trails a couple of ropes and a couple of big guys pull for all there worth just like a blimp!
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jcf

#28
QuoteDo the crew have to walk out on the wing and push the tips down, or do they just press a button in the cockpit?

;D ;D ;D

The flight-deck crew push a switch.  :thumbsup:

QuoteI can see various 1/144 add-on manufacturers already carving masters for folding tips.  ;D

They'd need to do more than tips as the new composite wing is quite different from the earlier 777s.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on April 23, 2021, 11:58:15 AM

;D ;D ;D

The flight-deck crew push a switch.  :thumbsup:


I'll be waiting for the first reports of one taking off WITHOUT the wings unfolded now. If the USN can do it with Crusaders and Phantoms..........  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit