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The Gunships GB - General Discussion

Started by NARSES2, May 11, 2021, 07:45:31 AM

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Rheged

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 22, 2021, 06:18:42 AM
What was the recoil like with one of those ?

About 12 to 15 feet.  The gun is more or less built into the gun-punt.   

  Desmond Bagley's book  The Tightrope Men   describes the effect of a punt gun fired into the mist to quell a group of opponents        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tightrope_Men
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It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

jcf

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 17, 2021, 06:27:18 AM
Been musing on the idea of a "Shore Bombardment Ship" based on one of the 1890's pre-Dreadnaughts with those flat sunken turrets seemingly at random spots on the hull. You could replace the guns in the turrets with large mortars or howitzers, or maybe replace some of the turrets with barbettes or just gun pits ?

US 12" Seacoast mortar.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-inch_coast_defense_mortar

1/35th scale model to give an idea of size.




Just about everything you'd need to know, US Army manual:
Oct 17, 1942 ยท TM 9-456 12-inch Seacoast Materiel: 12-inch Mortar M1890MI Mounted on 12-inch Mortar
Carriage M1896MI and M1896MII 1942-10 ...
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/TM/pdfs/TM9-456.pdf


NARSES2

That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking about Jon.

That's a nice model of it as well. I've built a couple of 1/72 : 1/76 models of a British 60pdr and a BL 12" Howitzer for a friend who's grandfather was in the RGA in WWI. Glad I did them before the eyesight worsened as all artillery models are intricate, but fascinating subjects.
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NARSES2

Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2021, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 22, 2021, 06:18:42 AM
What was the recoil like with one of those ?

About 12 to 15 feet.  The gun is more or less built into the gun-punt.   


Quote from: Nick on November 22, 2021, 08:13:08 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on November 22, 2021, 06:18:42 AM
What was the recoil like with one of those ?

It'd blow the boat back a good few feet. If you were daft enough to hold it you'd be on the ground with a broken shoulder. Ammo was whatever gravel, scrap metal and ball bearings you could find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2NUCJOYRE8  This is only a small one....

Ta  :thumbsup:
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zenrat

A large mortar or howitzer in1/72 mounted in an Airfix LCM and you have an adhoc moniter for shore bombardment.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

A forthcoming Osprey book is about Victorian Royal Navy gunboats, shame it didn't come out a tad earlier
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loupgarou

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2021, 06:22:35 AM
A forthcoming Osprey book is about Victorian Royal Navy gunboats, shame it didn't come out a tad earlier

But this one is available since a while... <_<
Konstam Angus   Osprey New Vang 239 Nile river gunboats
as, more serious, this one:
Buxton Ian   Big gun monitors  Seaforth   2016

Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

Rheged

Quote from: loupgarou on December 24, 2021, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2021, 06:22:35 AM
A forthcoming Osprey book is about Victorian Royal Navy gunboats, shame it didn't come out a tad earlier

But this one is available since a while... <_<
Konstam Angus   Osprey New Vang 239 Nile river gunboats
as, more serious, this one:
Buxton Ian   Big gun monitors  Seaforth   2016

Angus Konstam has written a lot of good stuff for Osprey......I shall look out for this one

I think Chris has in mind things like the Rendel Gunboats, a cheap coastal defence weapon.  I think Norway has one of theirs under restoration.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

McColm

I keep changing my mind on which kit to use Avro York or Avro Shackleton MR.3.