Under the Black Flag GB - The Rules

[NARSES2]

I'm not trying to shut down the debate. I just feel some of it is for its own sake.

[ysi_maniac]

For example:

Corsairs are not included. Is it intentional?

Are anti-piracy forces valid?

In principle, I think of an object aimed at executing the actions that at the time were common on the coasts Caribbean, Mediterranean and other seas. Namely, a small force attacking poorly protected or civilian targets that for a short period (less than a day) they suffered looting, kidnapping, etc ...

I see certain possibilities for boats, cars, trucks and tanks. The planes I see frankly difficult.

Thanks

[scooter]

For example:

Corsairs are not included. Is it intentional?

Corsairs are a subset of pirate, and therefore folded in with the generic "Pirate" name

Are anti-piracy forces valid?

We'll get back to you on this

The planes I see frankly difficult.

Thanks

Steam/dieselpunk, airships, seaplanes and amphibians, Crimson Skies, Porco Rosso, etc.

[zenrat]

Planes is easy.  Build a plane, paint it in a piratey colour scheme and write "this is a pirate plane" in the back story.

Anti-piracy forces are just coastguards/police/navy and should not be allowed.  Save them for a blue light GB.
A criminal gang which specialises in stealing from pirates etc is another matter.

[scooter]

Are anti-piracy forces valid?

We'll get back to you on this

Moderator consensus on pirate hunters is as follows:

Pirate hunters, as an adversarial force, are allowed.  With the proviso that it can't just be a regular military or police resource assigned to anti-piracy duties, ditto anti-smuggling, basically the backstory would need to establish why a specific force is/was required.

[Old Wombat]

Are anti-piracy forces valid?

We'll get back to you on this

Moderator consensus on pirate hunters is as follows:

Pirate hunters, as an adversarial force, are allowed.  With the proviso that it can't just be a regular military or police resource assigned to anti-piracy duties, ditto anti-smuggling, basically the backstory would need to establish why a specific force is/was required.

I would suggest that they should, also, be operating outside the law (illegally) in their anti-piracy/smuggling operations (organised vigilantes).

[jcf]

Are anti-piracy forces valid?

We'll get back to you on this

Moderator consensus on pirate hunters is as follows:

Pirate hunters, as an adversarial force, are allowed.  With the proviso that it can't just be a regular military or police resource assigned to anti-piracy duties, ditto anti-smuggling, basically the backstory would need to establish why a specific force is/was required.

I would suggest that they should, also, be operating outside the law (illegally) in their anti-piracy/smuggling operations (organised vigilantes).

Governments often get involved in all kinds of extra-legal shenanigans and work in
grey areas taking actions that are technically illegal under their own laws, s'all about
plausible deniability, and there's no reason it couldn't apply to an unofficial anti-piracy
program that's funded and supplied by a government. The political scandal resulting
from such a program being discovered could be part of a backstory.


The definition of legal has always been mutable and such it will remain for the foreseeable
future.

In a post-Apocalyptic dystopian setting "Wasteland Gangs" and "Fortified Cities" could
prey on each other with each accusing the other of piracy, and smugglers going both
ways in violation of the "laws" of both types of replacement societies.

We're not talking about real world pirates, this is about having fun inventing alternate
realities where perhaps pirates and smugglers et. al. aren't what they are in "our" reality;
criminal gangs given to mayhem and murder to achieve their ends, there are very good
reasons why pirates were hanged.

FWIW I personally see the GB subject as being a framing device and starting point for
folks to let their minds wander rather than as a set of irons.

[ysi_maniac]

Merkava with extra large squad area.



I find this adequate for this GB, specilly suited for above mentioned looting, kidnapping, etc ...

[ysi_maniac]

StarLightning



And ... what about to design this aircraft as a product of illegal copy from F-104 and EE Lightning?

[ysi_maniac]

^^^^^
Hi Moderators, according to rule 2, to be an unlicensed copy qualifies for this GB?

2.   Any subject that meets the criteria of piracy (including privateers, buccaneers and smuggling) set in any time period is eligible.  This can also include Intellectual Property piracy - unlicensed production of videos, music etc. which is different from simple theft, if you can work out how to include it. This might be an avenue for our "story tellers" to explore ? Plus of course one shouldn't forget Pirate Radio. If still in doubt about your plans contact the Mods.

[sandiego89]

Up to the mods of course, but I think unlicenced production is getting too far from the theme of swashbuckling and not so swashbuckling members of society, and it could become a "build whatever your want, just make it fit somehow GB".  My humble opinion of course 

[jcf]

2.   Any subject that meets the criteria of piracy (including privateers, buccaneers and smuggling) set in any time period is eligible.  This can also include Intellectual Property piracy - unlicensed production of videos, music etc. which is different from simple theft, if you can work out how to include it. This might be an avenue for our "story tellers" to explore ? Plus of course one shouldn't forget Pirate Radio. If still in doubt about your plans contact the Mods.

Up to the mods of course, but I think unlicenced production is getting too far from the theme of swashbuckling and not so swashbuckling members of society, and it could become a "build whatever your want, just make it fit somehow GB".  My humble opinion of course 

Swashbuckling is realistically speaking period specific, doesn't apply to piracy in general and has
little to do with smuggling except in that sometimes the same people did both.

No, it isn't going to be a "build whatever your want, just make it fit somehow GB" because if someone
wants to use the IP piracy scenario just applying different markings to, for example, an airplane and
simply stating the "new" owners stole the design ain't going to fly. The scenario is going to need to be
fairly detailed and have an internal logic i.e. a country with a nascent or limited aviation industry isn't
going to be able to steal a state-of-the art high-tech design and start to manufacture the aircraft.

This will be true of any IP piracy scenario and if someone wants to do a story around music or film/TV
piracy then they'll need to invent the musician, band or video/film production that was pirated. Perhaps
pirated entertainment, software etc. being smuggled into a place where they're banned.

More thoughts later.

[Robomog]

Hi all

This is a request of the moderators.

Is the following disassembled kit in an acceptable state to enter the group build ?

by Robomog, on Flickr

I'm proposing to whiff it to jet power and cannon armament the additional parts are also in the picture. It will also have a complete makeover

Your adjudication please ?

Mog
>^-.-^<

[Old Wombat]

A jet powered Walrus?

That's scary!

[rickshaw]

Depends on where the jet efflux exits from!