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Ilyushin Il-2 TSD центральный двигатель - (Middle motor)

Started by TomZ, June 03, 2021, 10:40:53 AM

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Ilyushin Il-2 TSD центральный двигатель - (Middle motor)



When the Ilyushin Il-2 was used to repel the German invaders in 1941 in quickly turned out that the accuracy of the attacks was a big problem. A large part of the attacks missed their target. Several proposals were made to improve this.



One of the design changes proposed was to move the engine to the middle of the aircraft and the cockpit to the front. This afforded better visibility to the pilot. This variant was called Il-2цд or Il-2 TSD for центральный двигатель or "middle motor".



A series of prototypes was built at the end of 1941, and they were tested at the front in the winter of 1941/1942. It turned out however that this design change did not markedly improve the accuracy of the attacks. A total of 48 of the Il-2 TSD were built but no further production was undertaken.



Model: Accurate Miniatures, 1/48

After the war, when more powerful engines became available, Ilyushin proposed the Il-20 which featured the engine at the front with the cockpit positioned over the engine. This also was not produced in any numbers.


Ilyushin Il-20


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JayBee

Comrade TomZ You have saved the fatherland with this wonderfull design!
Actaually Tom when I first saw it my mind went to the Il-20.
Well done, I rather like it.  :thumbsup:
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That's a great whiff! You could say the Soviets got the idea from Lend Lease P-39s.
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 :wub: Wow! And that would have made a good pair with protection by Bell P-39 "Aerokobra"! :thumbsup:
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Quote from: TomZ on June 03, 2021, 10:40:53 AM
After the war, when more powerful engines became available, Ilyushin proposed the Il-20 which featured the engine at the front with the cockpit positioned over the engine. This also was not produced in any numbers.


Ilyushin Il-20


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I think that's the first time I've ever seen a COE (cab over engine) plane...
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Quote from: scooter on June 03, 2021, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: TomZ on June 03, 2021, 10:40:53 AM
After the war, when more powerful engines became available, Ilyushin proposed the Il-20 which featured the engine at the front with the cockpit positioned over the engine. This also was not produced in any numbers.


Ilyushin Il-20


TomZ

I think that's the first time I've ever seen a COE (cab over engine) plane...

One of my all time favorites could be classed as a COE, the Transavia PL-12 Airtruk  :mellow:
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Whatever.

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Terrific build Tom, the "simple" camouflage scheme seems to add to it  :bow:
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Dizzyfugu

Oh, that's cool, esp. with the Il-20 reference.  :wub:

If NARSES2 had not already nominated it for the Whiffies, I'd gladly have done so.  ;D

TomZ

Quote from: Tophe on June 03, 2021, 11:39:54 AM
:wub: Wow! And that would have made a good pair with protection by Bell P-39 "Aerokobra"! :thumbsup:

Of course the Soviets did not use the P-39 Aerokobra but the Gorbunov Go-3 Кобра as an escort.



See here: https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=49348.0

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- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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