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Started by Spey_Phantom, August 05, 2021, 10:06:23 PM

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Spey_Phantom

August 05, 2021, 10:06:23 PM
i have an idea, that might be seen as a challenge.
i call it the Nightmare Kit GB.

the goal is to build a model, using a kit that is, for example, outdated, innacurate, bad fitting,...
good examples of this are the old Revell microwings/crown, or older airfix kits from days gone.
the goal is to try to turn these old nightmare kits into something that looks good, improvements or modifications would be encouraged.
on the bench:

-all kinds of things.

kitbasher

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August 06, 2021, 12:34:00 AM Last Edit: August 06, 2021, 12:58:57 AM by kitbasher
That is the concept of the 'bad kit/old kit' GB proposed - but in the end not taken up - earlier this year, Nils.
Still one to promote, though.
I'm thinking 'asymmetric GB' next year, moderated by Tophe - who else??
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
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McColm

#2
August 06, 2021, 12:56:37 AM
I would recommend any of the 1/72 Mach2 range especially the;
Avro York, the sud Caravelle or Super Frelon kits .

TomZ

#3
August 06, 2021, 01:18:14 AM
Quote from: McColm on August 06, 2021, 12:56:37 AM
I would recommend any of the 1/72 Mach2 range especially the;
Avro York, the sud Caravelle or Super Frelon kits .

I would agree. I am working on the Savage at the moment. Let's just say that I have had better kits......

TomZ
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Pellson

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August 06, 2021, 02:04:38 AM
Quote from: McColm on August 06, 2021, 12:56:37 AM
I would recommend any of the 1/72 Mach2 range especially the;
Avro York, the sud Caravelle or Super Frelon kits .


Mmmm....  I have two times two of those in my stash....   :o
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zenrat

#5
August 06, 2021, 05:06:19 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 06, 2021, 12:34:00 AM
...I'm thinking 'asymmetric GB' next year, moderated by Tophe - who else??

Second that.  I've added it to my list.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Weaver

#6
August 07, 2021, 05:17:12 AM
The sticking point would be though, what constitutes a 'bad enough' kit?

One builder's 'nightmare' is another's 'pleasingly challenging'....
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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zenrat

#7
August 07, 2021, 05:19:24 AM
Self nominated.  I think we can all be trusted to be telling the truth when we say "wow this is crap".
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kitbasher

#8
August 07, 2021, 05:38:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 07, 2021, 05:17:12 AM
The sticking point would be though, what constitutes a 'bad enough' kit?

One builder's 'nightmare' is another's 'pleasingly challenging'....

'Old' anything originally released before an agreed year.

'Bad' - thought about this during/after this year's GB vote.  I'd suggest two (possibly more) openly referenced (e.g. online) reviews need to be cited to justify a 'bad' label.

I think rules are possible.
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
On the go: Beaumaris/Battle/Bronco/Barracuda/F-105(UK)/Flatning/Hellcat IV/Hunter PR11/Hurricane IIb/Ice Cream Tank/JP T4/Jumo MiG-15/M21/P1103 (early)/P1127/P1154-ish/Phantom FG1/I-153/Sea Hawk T7/Spitfire XII/Spitfire Tr18/Twin Otter/FrankenCOIN/Frankenfighter

sandiego89

#9
August 07, 2021, 06:23:30 AM
I have hoped for a bad kit GB in years past, never got many votes, but think we should keep the thought alive. Extra points for raised rivets and raised roundels molded in!   

I do not think asymmetric would get many entries, except from a few nameless folks.....Think it is too narrow.   
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Weaver

#10
August 07, 2021, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 07, 2021, 05:38:23 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 07, 2021, 05:17:12 AM
The sticking point would be though, what constitutes a 'bad enough' kit?

One builder's 'nightmare' is another's 'pleasingly challenging'....

'Old' anything originally released before an agreed year.

'Bad' - thought about this during/after this year's GB vote.  I'd suggest two (possibly more) openly referenced (e.g. online) reviews need to be cited to justify a 'bad' label.

I think rules are possible.

The problem with that 'Bad' rule is that many of the worst kits are also fairly obscure, so they've never been reviewed, at least not in the internet age. I just had a look for reviews of the old ZTS Plastyk/Mastercraft TS-11 Iskra, which I KNOW is a nightmare because I've built it, but I can't find one review online. All the reviews are of the much later and better Arma Hobby kit from 2014.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

The Rat

#11
August 07, 2021, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Weaver on August 07, 2021, 10:40:27 AMI just had a look for reviews of the old ZTS Plastyk/Mastercraft TS-11 Iskra, which I KNOW is a nightmare because I've built it, but I can't find one review online.

This one? Built it last year, the absolute worst kit(?) I have ever seen.

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PR19_Kit

#12
August 07, 2021, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on August 07, 2021, 06:23:30 AM

Extra points for raised rivets and raised roundels molded in!   


Even more if it has the name of the manufacturer AND the aircraft type moulded onto the OUTSIDE of the fuselage!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
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Steel Penguin

#13
August 07, 2021, 12:28:34 PM
I need to insert the Gif of the badger running away going " nope nope nope" right here
ive done a couple of these for wargaming reasons, the mixed metal and injection kit that was the original GW Vindicator was a dog of a kit, I nearly gave up on it, and a white metal WW2 German 1/2 track got finished for the only reason id promised a friend id do it for him.

your braver folks than me,  the best of luck to you... :thumbsup:
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Spey_Phantom

#14
August 07, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: The Rat on August 07, 2021, 11:05:04 AM
This one? Built it last year, the absolute worst kit(?) I have ever seen.



i remember this kit all too well, the horror, THE HORROR!!!  :o
on the bench:

-all kinds of things.
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