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Ushi Models

Started by TomZ, September 11, 2021, 11:19:34 AM

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TomZ

I just saw this:



https://www.hlj.com/1-72-scale-prototype-fighter-beriev-b-10m-usi00015

from Ushi models. Their web site is in Japanese http://ushimodels.com/ but the pictures look interesting.

I pre-ordered one of the Beriev kits from HLJ. Russian Schneider racer????

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sandiego89

Ohhh thanks for posting. Never heard of that design. 
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NARSES2

Remove the floats and the design is very familiar, can't quite remember what, but I will : eventually. :angel:
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TomZ

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 12, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Remove the floats and the design is very familiar, can't quite remember what, but I will : eventually. :angel:

On Secret Projects there is some info about the Beriev B-10 which is a land plane. This is the B-10M which is supposed to be the seaplane version.

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sandiego89

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 12, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Remove the floats and the design is very familiar, can't quite remember what, but I will : eventually. :angel:

SAAB 21?  Minus the second engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAAB_21
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NARSES2

Quote from: sandiego89 on September 12, 2021, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 12, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Remove the floats and the design is very familiar, can't quite remember what, but I will : eventually. :angel:

SAAB 21?  Minus the second engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAAB_21

That was my first thought in trying to think where I may have seen something similar, but there was at least one similar Japanese project, Manshu whatever ?, which I've built a kit of. Plus I may well have seen the Beriev landplane , or similar, on the Soviet SIG's stand at shows as they have lots of models of projects and prototypes as well as What If's.
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zenrat

There are pics of a built version of this on here somewhere.
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- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Mossie

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 12, 2021, 11:23:11 PM
Quote from: sandiego89 on September 12, 2021, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 12, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Remove the floats and the design is very familiar, can't quite remember what, but I will : eventually. :angel:

SAAB 21?  Minus the second engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAAB_21

That was my first thought in trying to think where I may have seen something similar, but there was at least one similar Japanese project, Manshu whatever ?, which I've built a kit of. Plus I may well have seen the Beriev landplane , or similar, on the Soviet SIG's stand at shows as they have lots of models of projects and prototypes as well as What If's.

Bolkhovitinov S used the same engine configuration?

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Quote from: zenrat on September 13, 2021, 04:13:03 AM
There are pics of a built version of this on here somewhere.

I posted it on the 'WHIFS Found Surfing' thread. I'll repost here:

Posted on Twitter by @ushimodels here: https://twitter.com/ushimodels/status/1426541682917478404?s=20

Twitter translation of Ushi's tweet:

"1/72 Beriev B-10M resin kit completed. It is a fighter planned in 1941 aiming for the fastest at that time. It was not developed due to the overly ambitious design of the skewer-shaped twin-engine propulsion system."



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PR19_Kit

Skewer shaped? Surely it's just two V12s either connected together, or with one prop shaft passing clean through the other, a la MC-72?
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TomZ

I'm a bit baffled by the two bladed props. Two M-107 engines both with a two bladed prop? I think I will be building it with at least three bladed props.

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PR19_Kit

The MC-72 only had two bladers as well, perhaps it was a 'style' thing of the times?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 13, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Skewer shaped? Surely it's just two V12s either connected together, or with one prop shaft passing clean through the other, a la MC-72?

Remember that's a Twitter auto-translate of Japanese, which can be a bit gnomic even when translated by an expert human.

The word that auto-translators seem to be struggling with is 'kushigata' which some other ones render as 'comb shaped' rather than 'skewer shaped'. That might be the clue: the drive from the forward engine is 'threaded through' the V of the rear one, like two combs locked together.
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kitbasher

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 13, 2021, 09:20:17 AM
Skewer shaped? Surely it's just two V12s either connected together, or with one prop shaft passing clean through the other, a la MC-72?

So one engine is skewered by the other's prop shaft.  Maybe 'skewered' and 'threaded' are the same word in some languages?
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sandiego89

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 13, 2021, 11:02:25 AM
The MC-72 only had two bladers as well, perhaps it was a 'style' thing of the times?

Can you imagine the sound though with twin V-12's and two- two bladed props?!   :o   Glorious or shrikeing? Both?   
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