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NARSES2

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Quote from: NARSES2 on October 02, 2021, 05:59:36 AM
Fresh in at Hannants

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RV5176



Plenty of 1/72 tank turrets that could be added to that.

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 02, 2021, 05:57:52 AM
Quote from: Rheged on October 01, 2021, 10:52:32 AM
Should anyone want a really off-the-wall suggestion,  there's always a Hussite war wagon  from 1420 or thereabouts.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_wagon#:~:text=A%20medieval%20European%20war%20wagon%20was%20developed%20in,supported%20by%20infantry%20using%20spears%2C%20pikes%20and%20flails.


Back in the day when I was into late medieval/early Renaissance wargaming one of the figure manufacturers, Essex I think, did a 25mm white metal one. I've still got my Essex Han Chinese army which has lots of heavily armed charriots.

ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Nick

Gunships. Or Super Gunboats?

Several river patrol vessels have been built with tank guns and turrets. We can always make them bigger and badder!  :wacko:

Russia currently has the Yaz-class gunboat which has 2 T-55 gun mounts and a pair of CIWS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaz-class_river_gunboat
Vosh-class has a single T-55 turret https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vosh-class_river_patrol_craft

In the 1940s they had the Bronekater BK1125 patrol boat with a pair of T-34 turrets. They captured Pinsk from the Germans in 1944 with help from 3 such boats, one is now a waterside memorial.
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/11/28/bronekater-bk-1124bk-1125-armored-patrol-boats/

North Korea still uses Fugas-class patrol boats with some sort of tank turret on the bow. Try not to laugh at T-404  ;D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugas-class_minesweeper
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/korean-peoples-navy-north-korea-current-and-retired/north-korean-navy-corvettes-and-patrol-ships/

Indonesia is buying the Antasena combat boats with Cockerill turrets on top. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antasena-class_combat_boat

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on October 02, 2021, 06:24:42 AM

ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?

Yup you are right about the Gatling. Not sure about the film.

So a covered waggon with a couple of Gatling's or maybe  Nordenfeldt guns ?
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Quote from: zenrat on October 02, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?

Yes.  At the beginning of the movie.
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Fairly sure this qualifies as a "Gunship";





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Quote from: Nick on October 02, 2021, 06:28:14 AM
Gunships. Or Super Gunboats?

Several river patrol vessels have been built with tank guns and turrets. We can always make them bigger and badder!  :wacko:

Russia currently has the Yaz-class gunboat which has 2 T-55 gun mounts and a pair of CIWS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaz-class_river_gunboat
Vosh-class has a single T-55 turret https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vosh-class_river_patrol_craft

In the 1940s they had the Bronekater BK1125 patrol boat with a pair of T-34 turrets. They captured Pinsk from the Germans in 1944 with help from 3 such boats, one is now a waterside memorial.
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/11/28/bronekater-bk-1124bk-1125-armored-patrol-boats/

North Korea still uses Fugas-class patrol boats with some sort of tank turret on the bow. Try not to laugh at T-404  ;D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugas-class_minesweeper
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/korean-peoples-navy-north-korea-current-and-retired/north-korean-navy-corvettes-and-patrol-ships/

Indonesia is buying the Antasena combat boats with Cockerill turrets on top. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antasena-class_combat_boat

Back in the '60s/'70s, Vickers had a project to convert a Centurion turret for use on ships: it was called the Autonomous Patrol Gun.
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Quote from: NARSES2 on October 02, 2021, 06:31:11 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 02, 2021, 06:24:42 AM

ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?

Yup you are right about the Gatling. Not sure about the film.

So a covered waggon with a couple of Gatling's or maybe  Nordenfeldt guns ?

HaT industrie make Gatling guns and Gardner guns in 1/72nd :


Review: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/review.aspx?id=1441


Review: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1442
Note that the Gardner guns come with naval deck mountings as well as wheeled carriages.

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Quote from: scooter on October 02, 2021, 07:09:29 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 02, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?

Yes.  At the beginning of the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjrx0TjJN6M

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How about an SRN4 hovercraft with a 12" gun turret on the roof?  ;D

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AeroplaneDriver

Who's going to tackle something along these lines..?

So I got that going for me...which is nice....

kitnut617

AiM has been saying they're gonna release a conversion of the YAL-1 for one of their 1/72 747 kits for years now, I've bought the base kit, the other accessory packs, just waiting for the turret and decal pack to be released  ----
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Quote from: kitnut617 on October 02, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
AiM has been saying they're gonna release a conversion of the YAL-1 for one of their 1/72 747 kits for years now, I've bought the base kit, the other accessory packs, just waiting for the turret and decal pack to be released  ----

That would be an impressive machine.   
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

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Quote from: Nick on October 02, 2021, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: scooter on October 02, 2021, 07:09:29 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 02, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
ISTR at least one western where a Gatling was hidden in a covered wagon. The  Outlaw Josey Wales maybe?

Yes.  At the beginning of the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjrx0TjJN6M

There was a John Wayne movie called The War Wagon. Some kind of armored stagecoach. The problem with all of these is why not just shoot the horses, mules, oxen, whatever?

Here is the Alabama Slammer under construction I believe at a depot in Kuwait. This would have been perhaps 2003 or 2004. Its a worn out  hull of an M-113 placed on an M818 truck tractor. This was during the time when troops were armoring everything with "hillbilly" armor and MRAP trucks had not arrived on the scene. The windows are armored Humvee windows and the M-113 was cut out to fit over the cab to keep the driver and codriver under armor unlike the Vietnam era guntrucks. Guns would probably have been something like an ACAV arraignment.









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