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Bundeswehr Umimog 1300L (no-WhatIf)

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: scooter on October 24, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 24, 2021, 02:43:12 PM

I confess, if I was able to afford to dabble in former Military vehicles I'd go for a Volvo 'Sugga', because I like my (relative) creature comforts and a closed cab is better than being out in the wind and rain...

I, too, have an appreciation for a Volvo Sugga, and would actually like to (after some subtle upgrades) use it as a daily driver.

You certainly wouldn't have problems with id10ts smacking your doors in parking lots - or more likely, wouldn't worry about any nicks and dings.

Though you might have to consider The Self-Entitled (Kens and Karens) wanting it...   :rolleyes:

Wardukw

A very nice job on a very little subject..ive driven Unimogs in the past but never the 1300..we didnt have those in the army..we used the 1500 series and i loved the point and go of this truck.
Specking of a SF Unimog..ive wanted to build on for ages but hell trying to find a cheap 35th scale Uni is bloody near impossible and its no point having all the gear and have nothing to put it on  :angry:
Im glad i dont collect military vehicles cause i would need either a farm or a 200 thousand sq foot building to stuff them all in  ;D
Oh heres something strange for you guys..here in NZ you need a firearms licence to own a tank    :o
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Pellson

Quote from: scooter on October 24, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 24, 2021, 02:43:12 PM

I confess, if I was able to afford to dabble in former Military vehicles I'd go for a Volvo 'Sugga', because I like my (relative) creature comforts and a closed cab is better than being out in the wind and rain...

I, too, have an appreciation for a Volvo Sugga, and would actually like to (after some subtle upgrades) use it as a daily driver.

Those "subtle upgrades" could be parking the Sugga body on a Land Rover Defender chassis, engine and all, as Red Bull did. I think they rebuilt two.

Worth to know, a mate of mine had a Sugga for a while, and it took like 8 mpg with its original engine. On the other hand - when parts of Gothenburg flooded some ten years ago, they drove it through the two ft deep water at speed, wakeboarding behind it. Jolly good fun.

Btw - the word "Sugga" means "sow", i.e. female pig. Just look at it, and you'll get it..

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Wardukw

Ohhh i like that..Sugga has a brutal pure functional look to it ..now what i would do to one is another thing.
Wouldnt change the outside..but the engine.gearbox..gear ratios would change..better fuel economy and better to drive..then full modern air con..up grade the hell out of the interior and turn it into a very useful daily driver .
If i had to change the entire drive line to get serious offroad use but still have road comfort i would ..like i did with my old K5 Chev ..this would far cooler tho .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Pellson on October 24, 2021, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: scooter on October 24, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 24, 2021, 02:43:12 PM

I confess, if I was able to afford to dabble in former Military vehicles I'd go for a Volvo 'Sugga', because I like my (relative) creature comforts and a closed cab is better than being out in the wind and rain...

I, too, have an appreciation for a Volvo Sugga, and would actually like to (after some subtle upgrades) use it as a daily driver.

Those "subtle upgrades" could be parking the Sugga body on a Land Rover Defender chassis, engine and all, as Red Bull did. I think they rebuilt two.

Worth to know, a mate of mine had a Sugga for a while, and it took like 8 mpg with its original engine. On the other hand - when parts of Gothenburg flooded some ten years ago, they drove it through the two ft deep water at speed, wakeboarding behind it. Jolly good fun.

Btw - the word "Sugga" means "sow", i.e. female pig. Just look at it, and you'll get it..


I can see the reason for the nickname, but I'm sure she has a lovely personality...  ;D

Yeah, a change of chassis and drive train would make sense for a daily driver, but *don't* bring it anywhere near a military vehicle meet!  ;D :o


Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on October 24, 2021, 06:44:17 PM
A very nice job on a very little subject..ive driven Unimogs in the past but never the 1300..we didnt have those in the army..we used the 1500 series and i loved the point and go of this truck.
Specking of a SF Unimog..ive wanted to build on for ages but hell trying to find a cheap 35th scale Uni is bloody near impossible and its no point having all the gear and have nothing to put it on  :angry:
Im glad i dont collect military vehicles cause i would need either a farm or a 200 thousand sq foot building to stuff them all in  ;D
Oh heres something strange for you guys..here in NZ you need a firearms licence to own a tank    :o

Yeah, offhand the only one I can think of is the Revell, and finding it over here, let alone at a reasonable price... there are easier (and cheaper) ways to bang your head against a brick wall...

If I ever won big, there is a whole fleet of stuff I'd like; but as you say, you'd then need a large area to play in - and getting the things here would be a mission in and of itself!
Then you have to get said arms license - oh, and all the relevant vehicle ones too! If you can't take them out yourself and play with them, what's the point?  :-\  ;)

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 24, 2021, 05:13:46 PM

You certainly wouldn't have problems with id10ts smacking your doors in parking lots - or more likely, wouldn't worry about any nicks and dings.


I once had occasion to ride shotgun in the BR Unimog from Derby out to the Old Dalby Test Track, about 25-30 miles or so, and amazingly we had no trouble at all with other traffic......

Of course a pair of folded up railway wheels at the front AND the rear, each pair sticking out some 2-3 feet, may have had something to do with it.  ;D
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zenrat

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Kid in my school used to get dropped off and picked up on occasion by his Dad in a Daimler Dingo.

I wouldn't be too fussy about what I spent my lotto winnings on as long as it was amphibious.
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Rick Lowe

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Quote from: zenrat on October 25, 2021, 03:41:04 AM
Kid in my school used to get dropped off and picked up on occasion by his Dad in a Daimler Dingo.


Bet he was popular when you all wanted to Play War... "Dad, can we borrow the Car today?"

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 25, 2021, 03:14:49 AM

I once had occasion to ride shotgun in the BR Unimog from Derby out to the Old Dalby Test Track, about 25-30 miles or so, and amazingly we had no trouble at all with other traffic......

Of course a pair of folded up railway wheels at the front AND the rear, each pair sticking out some 2-3 feet, may have had something to do with it.  ;D

;D :thumbsup:

Pellson

Quote from: Rick Lowe on October 26, 2021, 01:03:41 AM
Quote from: zenrat on October 25, 2021, 03:41:04 AM
Kid in my school used to get dropped off and picked up on occasion by his Dad in a Daimler Dingo.


Bet he was popular when you all wanted to Play War... "Dad, can we borrow the Car today?"


My kids get impressed looks even when I collect them in the Defender.  I put it down to the Age of Boring But good Kias we all live in.  :rolleyes:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Pellson on October 26, 2021, 06:15:44 AM
My kids get impressed looks even when I collect them in the Defender.  I put it down to the Age of Boring But good Kias we all live in.  :rolleyes:

So true!  ;D ;D :thumbsup:

scooter

Quote from: Pellson on October 26, 2021, 06:15:44 AMI put it down to the Age of Boring But good Kias we all live in.  :rolleyes:

Most new cars are boring today.  I know its all part of the quest for both safety and fuel efficiency, but still.
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In my last two years in the Army I used to drive a 1500 Mog.  It was big and fun.  Not as nearly as big or as fun as the F1/Mk.5 tipper that I used to drive before it.  No one used to argue with me on the roads.  I took the F1 to the drive-in once.  We all sat in the back on Chairs, Folding. with a big esky full of cold ones. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Wardukw

Guest what i saw today in a place called Toroa..not far from my home in Thames wgich dont help any of ya  :lol:..ok its here in NZ..ok I'll tell ya ..a 1500 Uni..converted into a mobile drilling unit..we know how big the 1500 is ..its alot bigger now.
One i have seen in Canada was a 1500 converted to 6X6..i want that  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Wardukw-NZ on October 27, 2021, 08:06:45 PM
Guest what i saw today in a place called Toroa..not far from my home in Thames wgich dont help any of ya  :lol:..ok its here in NZ..ok I'll tell ya ..a 1500 Uni..converted into a mobile drilling unit..we know how big the 1500 is ..its alot bigger now.
One i have seen in Canada was a 1500 converted to 6X6..i want that  ;D

Some of the stuff we have here that's been repurposed is surprising... I have seen something Sherman-based (well, Sherman lower hull & running gear) on a low-loader on the motorway... I was going in the other direction, so didn't have a opportunity to investigate further, but IIRC the logging industry here used many and varied chassis for a while. It's go-anywhere gear, so that makes sense.
And any equipment they varied to throw onto it would probably *still* weigh less than all the armour and Soldiery-type bits.

Check out a doco they had on Prime a while back, on Gillies Transport, for some interesting conversions and usages of post-WW2 GMCs...

https://www.primetv.co.nz/truck-files-a-new-zealand-story


Hmm - MAJOR thread-drift here, maybe the vehicle discussion parts need to be chopped over to the 'Cars n Things' thread?

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Little addition to the Unimog. Found a printable 3D model of a radio container for the Unimog. Some of the vehicles in my unit had those (but not the one I drove), so I will make on of them.



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