Missouri battleship 16" turret tank? Yes, I said TANK!

[scooter]

Why only one turret? 

From Stan Mott's History of Tanks.

I wonder if it has the same problem as the Courbet - where the secondaries outrange the main armament. 

[NARSES2]

Why only one turret? 

From Stan Mott's History of Tanks.

I wonder if it has the same problem as the Courbet - where the secondaries outrange the main armament. 

I just like the little 2CV poodling along it front of it 

[Rheged]

Why only one turret? 

From Stan Mott's History of Tanks.

I wonder if it has the same problem as the Courbet - where the secondaries outrange the main armament. 

I just like the little 2CV poodling along it front of it 

The chap with the red flag in front of them all is just out of shot on the left.

[Rick Lowe]

Puts me a little in mind of Mortal Engines... but more well-armed

[sandiego89]

Did someone call?  Had plenty of room for my turrets and ammo decks....

based on an 1930's magazine cover.

[Nick]

This magazine cover? https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryTechnology/comments/220l7f/land_fortressaircraft_carriertankbattleship/

[tigercat]

It's definitely ugly enough to be a real French Battleship

[tahsin]

I had an interesting time reading the wikipedia article on the Ratte. Specifically that the battleship turrets weighing an easy 750 but would fall down to 300 when fitted on the tank hull. Forget that . They might take the guns allright but it would probably be easier to produce a new twin turret. The claims that each Panzer division would get one as a flagship would support that. Only if they were not made up to cover the target set. Until 1945 or so, rushing the American efforts to that particular end. And Ratte's front armour is weak at 25 centimeters. Because through the little effort spent on research l know Guderian was busy in 1945 with a 170mm gun that could penetrate 200mm at 4000 meters range. Closing in for effect would be better if that 36cm on the turret front could be matched on the entire front.

[jcf]

It's definitely ugly enough to be a real French Battleship

Yeah, the Courbet, Bretagne, Dunkerque and Richelieu classes were real dogs. 

[sandiego89]

This magazine cover? https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryTechnology/comments/220l7f/land_fortressaircraft_carriertankbattleship/

That's the one Nick!  My inspiration. 

Used a 1/700 USS Arizona for the hull and turrets. Tracks were scratch, easter egg for the citadel and a travel-size shampoo bottle for the funnel!   

[Old Wombat]

It's definitely ugly enough to be a real French Battleship

Yeah, the Courbet, Bretagne, Dunkerque and Richelieu classes were real dogs. 

Perhaps not but Jaureguiberry, Charles Martel, Massena, Bouvet & even Suffren probably fit the bill.

[kerick]

Weird looking ship and really weird looking hull shape.

[scooter]

It's definitely ugly enough to be a real French Battleship

Yeah, the Courbet, Bretagne, Dunkerque and Richelieu classes were real dogs. 

Perhaps not but Jaureguiberry, Charles Martel, Massena, Bouvet & even Suffren probably fit the bill.

When hotels go to war

Weird looking ship and really weird looking hull shape.

Drach did a video on French predreadnoughts, and the theories that went into their designs.  I linked somewhere in my Rum Ration topic

[Old Wombat]

French Pre-Dreadnoughts - When Hotels go to War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygXLnRAm-A

[Old Wombat]

Anyway, getting back on track!

As I said, seadude, the turret's width (which is slightly less than the length, excluding guns) is about 7¹/₄".

This gives you a turret ring of about 7" (this is all in model measurements) & that is not far short of the full length of a 1/35 MBT!!!

For stability & weight distribution over the ground something as big as this is going to need at least 8" across the outside of the tracks, maybe 8¹/₂" &, even with a long vehicle like the M103 & using both of your kits, that is going to leave you with a terrible length/width ratio for each set of tracks.

This is why I suggested 4 x 1/48 tanks (Churchills would be good but something like M24 Chaffees might do), each at a corner of the hull structure with a load-bearing pivot point above their centre of mass. This way each "tank" acts like a wheel, with the front two (even the rear two, if you want) able to turn & steer the mega-tank like the front wheels of a car.

I say all this because this is the best way I've thought of to build a mobile service & maintenance base for one of these;



In 1/20 it's big & I've gone for 2 x M41 Walker Bulldogs & 2 x M42 Dusters in 1/35 as my starting point (I have the kits, I just need to find time to do the work).